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Topic: IQ "Widow's Peak" guitar chords
Posted By: Mirror Image
Subject: IQ "Widow's Peak" guitar chords
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 01:58
Hello All,

Could somebody please tell what chord voicings Mike Holmes is using in the introduction of Widow's Peak. Thanks. Here's a video:




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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 03:07
^ Oh, cool, training my ear!

Give me some time; I may get something for ya, but don't forget that the use of an alternate tuning could be possible.

OK, it's in E, I think it is not an inversion; it's in the first position. However, the highest note is the minor 3rd. Back in the older days I would address this issue in the following away: it's in the third inversion since it's a minor seventh chord, but the bass note is still the E. 

Em7. No. Em32 (if you know some theory, then you will probably understand what I'm talking about). 

R 7th 3rd 

OK, so the first chord is Em32, the second one sounds like a B as if it was played in the B Phrygian mode 'cause it's got that minor 2nd tone.

The other two chord played about 30 sec. into the video are Gmaj and Dmaj. 

Will be back; some duty calls.


Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 10:09
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Oh, cool, training my ear!

Give me some time; I may get something for ya, but don't forget that the use of an alternate tuning could be possible.

OK, it's in E, I think it is not an inversion; it's in the first position. However, the highest note is the minor 3rd. Back in the older days I would address this issue in the following away: it's in the third inversion since it's a minor seventh chord, but the bass note is still the E. 

Em7. No. Em32 (if you know some theory, then you will probably understand what I'm talking about). 

R 7th 3rd 

OK, so the first chord is Em32, the second one sounds like a B as if it was played in the B Phrygian mode 'cause it's got that minor 2nd tone.

The other two chord played about 30 sec. into the video are Gmaj and Dmaj. 

Will be back; some duty calls.

Thanks, Dayvenkirq. This mysterious sounding chord progression reminds me of the Impressionistic music of Ravel and Debussy. Of course, the song morphs into something different after this introduction, but this opening always seemed so haunting to me.


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 25 2012 at 16:59
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Em32

wat


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 00:19
^ Xy32 is the nomenclature for a seventh chord in the third inversion. There is the root position (Xy7), then the first inversion (Xy65), second inversion (Xy43), and the third inversion (Xy... ah, s$%t! I messed up!)

Sorry, not Em32, but Em2. That's the third inversion.


Posted By: Horizons
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 00:21
I like IQ. 

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Posted By: Mirror Image
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 00:31
Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I like IQ. 

Do they have their own thread?


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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 01:03
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

^ Xy32 is the nomenclature for a seventh chord in the third inversion. There is the root position (Xy7), then the first inversion (Xy65), second inversion (Xy43), and the third inversion (Xy... ah, s$%t! I messed up!)

Sorry, not Em32, but Em2. That's the third inversion.

I've never seen it written that way.

Normally those numbers would be written for roman numeral notation, as in IV6/5 or something, though it's awkward to type out and doesn't look right.

You're mixing chord notation and roman numeral notation, and I don't know if that's standard anywhere....


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 01:48
^ Yeah, I know. It just helps me understand what I do when I write/improvise, although that's also how I can unintentionally mess with people's heads.

Sorry for the misinterpretation. I meant to say "third inversion of Em7".

Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:

You're mixing chord notation and roman numeral notation, and I don't know if that's standard anywhere....

Not that I know of.


Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 01:52
Originally posted by Mirror Image Mirror Image wrote:

Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

I like IQ. 

Do they have their own thread?

Use the search feature and check if it's newer or older than six months.


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 13:58

Dayvenkirq, not sure where do you get Em2 from, it's Em7 to me. Well I'm not very good at chord names but anyway it's a very simple arpeggio and I can tell you the fingering.

It's in std tuning. Place your left hand so that:
 
6th string    open
5th string    open
4th string    10th fret (pinky finger)
3rd string    7th fret (index)
2nd string   8th fret (middle)
1st string    open
 
and arpeggio like this (the beat is 7/8)
 
6th
1st
3rd
2nd
4th
release the 2nd string open and pick it
1st
repeat
 
then the 2nd chord at 1:05, place your left hand so that:
 
6th string    open
5th string    open
4th string    11th fret (pinky finger)
3rd string    8th fret (index)
2nd string   9th fret (middle)
1st string    open
 
and arpeggio like this
 
6th
1st
3rd
2nd
4th
release the 2nd string open and pick it
1st
repeat
 
Pretty simple ain't it? Tongue
 
 


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:10
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

It's in std tuning.
 
 


My guitars do not have that tuning because they stay in their cases.  Stern Smile


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Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 15:27
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

It's in std tuning.
 
 


My guitars do not have that tuning because they stay in their cases.  Stern Smile
 
 
Mine was in its case for months and I just took it out to check this out, I knew it was a very simple arpeggio but I had to try it. Had to fine-tune the guitar a bit but I was surprised that it was quite OK after such a long time in its case Tongue


Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 16:01
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

It's in std tuning.
 
 


My guitars do not have that tuning because they stay in their cases.  Stern Smile
 
 
Mine was in its case for months and I just took it out to check this out, I knew it was a very simple arpeggio but I had to try it. Had to fine-tune the guitar a bit but I was surprised that it was quite OK after such a long time in its case Tongue


I was just making a joke.  In the US, std means "sexually transmitted disease."  Wink


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Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: July 26 2012 at 22:33
LOL

Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

Dayvenkirq, not sure where do you get Em2 from, it's Em7 to me. Well I'm not very good at chord names but anyway it's a very simple arpeggio and I can tell you the fingering.


I believe you with all the things that follow. I just messed up a bit again. I meant to say Em2/E (because E is the lowest note and the minor 3rd is the highest note).

Uh, crap, I messed up again! It's not third inversion; it's second inversion.
R 3 5 7
3 5 7 R
5 7 R 3 ... Yup, second inversion. So, it's Em43/E.

Damn, you are right about the fingerings. Big smile I'm learning to play the guitar in the bluesy rock-n'-roll style, so I completely forgot about simple arpeggios. And I didn't even get to the other chord 'cause I had some prior engagements to attend to.


Posted By: Gerinski
Date Posted: July 27 2012 at 15:39
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


I was just making a joke.  In the US, std means "sexually transmitted disease."  Wink
 
 
Ah I see, I'l never go to bed without learning something Tongue



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