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Joined: January 03 2008
Location: Argentina
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Posted: June 29 2012 at 20:55
I think that the biggest disgraces in musical industry are
1 Madonna. She has no real talent and infuenced loads of female pop singers that have nothing but good looks.
2 Punk Rock. They have no technical prowness whatsoever and also rely on image and attitude. They basically killed all the attempts of making something relatively complex with rock music.
3 Nirvana. While I liked the band when I was a teenager and I still do I realized that their influence was negative because they put the last nail in the coffin of rock music.
Joined: September 03 2006
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 07:56
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
Nirvana and Alice in Chains brought back some fire to rock music (mainstream rock, that is) before Metallica in their new Friends hairdo avatar helped douse it with a little help from Linkin Park. Hair metal is just, "OMG, look at me, see how I shred" music for me. At least Cobain had something to say, even if he may not have always been agreeable.
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
Joined: July 02 2008
Location: Australia
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Points: 14258
Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:05
dtguitarfan wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
Hey I can play Nirvana too - I know all 3 of their guitar chords.
Joined: September 03 2006
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:07
dtguitarfan wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
Mind if I ask why shouldn't Cobain play guitar if those borefests like George Lynch got to?
Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:11
People shouldn't be able to just pick up a guitar and play stuff! They should have to go to music school for 8 years first and then only play proper music like Boston and stuff! We really don't want any old snotty brat playing music do we?
Edited by akamaisondufromage - June 30 2012 at 08:12
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
Hey I can play Nirvana too - I know all 3 of their guitar chords.
Mind if I ask why shouldn't Cobain play guitar if those borefests like George Lynch got to?
I'm not saying Cobain shouldn't have played guitar. I'm saying he shouldn't' have been considered a GUITAR HERO. Because people actually said he was an influential and important guitar player, this changed music for the worse afterward because people thought "well, if you don't have to work hard to be considered good, why should I work hard?"
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
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Posted: June 30 2012 at 08:13
dtguitarfan wrote:
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
ExittheLemming wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
Ambient Hurricanes wrote:
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
Hey I can play Nirvana too - I know all 3 of their guitar chords.
^While I would agree that Nirvana had a negative influence, to be fair, hair metal wasn't much better.
There were plenty of Hair Metal bands that showed skills though...
Notwithstanding your own personal tastes, how could Nirvana, the Pixies and Soundgarden be bad for erstwhile contemporary rock music?
Because Nirvana was the posterboy for "hey, ANYONE can play guitar!" (I personally witnessed many Nirvana fanboys buying Nirvana books and guitars and 3 days later pretending to be rock stars.) And after them, EVERYONE did, and we got a lot of half-baked, mediocre music.
The same argument can be used to undermine the brilliance and originality of the Beatles or Beachboys i.e. there was nothing stopping you from thinking of it first y'all?
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