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    Posted: June 07 2012 at 20:59
Hmmmmm,

I'd say maybe Aqualung, In the Court of the Crimson King, Masque.

Probably either Selling England by the Pound, or Gentle Giants self titled.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2012 at 19:50
^ Very rock-oriented, but I can pick something out, like "The Great Gig in the Sky".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2012 at 19:17
I think it was DSOM solely that got me into prog but Echoes, Shadow of the Heirophant, Again and Comfortably Numb have got mates into prog.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 07 2012 at 11:12
^ Maybe only "Vultures Fly High" would work 'cause I'm not sure if my mom is into lengthy, adventurous, listening-challenging music. And also ...
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

... she felt a bit annoyed the first time she heard Jacqui McShee'shigh, gentle, and clear voice on Pentangle's "Reflection" (the title track). 
... which means she might not be into Haslam's voice either. Beats me.

Good call, though.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 12:55
La Locanda delle Fatte's Forse Le Lucciole Non Si Amano Piu is also a very accessible symphonic album, and great, assuming that she doesn't mind the vocals in italian.
What about Marillion's Misplaced Childhood?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 12:34
^ [facepalm] ... I'm a loser. Yes, right, Minnear. She liked his voice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 06:31
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

By the way, one more thing I forgot to mention: she was a bit enthralled with Derek Shulman's voice on "Aspirations". !!

Derek Shulman doesn't sing on "Aspirations": It's Kerry Minnear.

I second the Crime of the Century recommendation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2012 at 03:05
^ Thanks, dude. You've provided a plenty of interesting recommendations. I've just checked out the first video/song and figured my mom might like it, although, I have to say, she felt a bit annoyed the first time she heard Jacqui McShee's highgentle, and clear voice on Pentangle's "Reflection" (the title track). 

Thank you, everyone, for your suggestions. You've been very helpful.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 23:07
That Magma experiment did not go well with her, and I wouldn't suggest anyone try it.  But I did do that as a bit of a lark when she was a passenger in my car. Her favourite band was Bon Jovi.

As for my strife, she likes very little that I have exposed to her (unless one counts exposing myself -- I don't mean that in a crude way, but more in an exposing me as a criminal sort of way -- I kid as she's very kind and considerate), but she does like GG's Aspirations somewhat, but she loved Think of me With Kindness.  She liked plenty of Harmonium, some PFM, and she liked Mellow Candle's Swaddling Songs (included in Prog Folk), especially this one, even if it's a pop song:



She loves this:



And this:



As for my mum (again while in my car):

She enjoyed Aranis and U-Totem.  She's only really into classical (she especially likes the romantics) music (and some jazz), and does not like rock, so I catered the music to her tastes.  I also tried some other music with her that was art/ academic music leaning, but she found it far too dissonant, at the point of chaotic, which surprised me because I found it pleasantly harmonious (but my ears are more used to that kind of music so what sounds chaotic to her may sound very structured/ orderly to me).  Yet she enjoys a fair amount of the avant-garde art music of the first half of the 20th century, so I think her brain just wasn't processing the harmonic structures quite right at the time.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 17:06
By the way, one more thing I forgot to mention: she was a bit enthralled with Derek Shulman's voice on "Aspirations". !!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 17:06

I went into prog by listening to A Passion Play wich I consider a real masterpiece but I guess Selling England By the Pound would be a better starting point for it is prog, it is a masterpiece and it is a classic.

La victoire est éphémère mais la gloire est éternelle!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 16:43
^ I didn't know Magma ventured into the world of New-Wavy synth pop. Wow LOL . 

About the songs presented: I don't think she would be pleased with the monotonicity of the former and the weirdness of the latter.

Speaking of weirdness: I played "More Songs About Buildings And Food" to her ... she hated that too! I tried to explain to her the meaning of the lyrics on "Found A Job", and she wasn't impressed with them. She found them cheap! ??? (I know it's only prog-related, but it's just a little hint for ya.)

Originally posted by Fox On The Rocks Fox On The Rocks wrote:

Dayvenkirg, how about putting on Crime Of The Century or some Barclay James Harvest for your mother? Thumbs Up That seems to fit your descriptions. 

I'll go check it out.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 16:21
Rather than albums, I do prefer to hit people with tracks (preferably with trains on them).  A few years ago with a  female friend I hit her with this:



And then right after with this:



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 15:57
Dayvenkirg, how about putting on Crime Of The Century or some Barclay James Harvest for your mother? Thumbs Up That seems to fit your descriptions. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 14:09
Originally posted by Gerinski Gerinski wrote:

What about Yes Drama? the sound is pop-friendly enough but the music is prog enough.
90125 would also be a possibility, even more pop-ear-friendly.

... A-a-a-a-and it's also on my list. Thanks.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 13:56
What about Yes Drama? the sound is pop-friendly enough but the music is prog enough.
90125 would also be a possibility, even more pop-ear-friendly.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 13:06
Originally posted by harmonium.ro harmonium.ro wrote:

Here's a related anecdote.

So, after holding on for a long time in order to give her a decent education in 60s/70s classic rock and folk, I finally let my girlfriend listen to ITCOTCK yesterday. I kept telling her to be receptive to the huge break it meant from '60s music, and I even made a preliminary playlist for that day consisting of '68/early '69 albums (Rolling Stones, Beatles, Zeppelin, Jeff Beck, Pink Floyd, Moody Blues, Van Morrison, Pretty Things, etc.) - only to realize, while listening to ITCOTCK, that the affinities are stronger than the break, in fact, and the break is in details that will only be better revealed with hindsight (getting to know '70s prog and the direction that KC later took).

She loved it and asked why the hell did I keep it hidden for so long. Embarrassed

Thanks for the story. She genuinely meant that? 'Cause I wasn't there, and you know better. Seriously, she liked it?

Ermm ... I don't know if that's gonna work for my mother. I might put on "I Talk to the Wind", "Epitaph" (risky business), "The Court -//-" (an even riskier business).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 09:36
I was coming up with the most progressive albums I could think of.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 30 2012 at 09:34
Originally posted by Dayvenkirq Dayvenkirq wrote:

Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Cardiacs - A Little Man and a House and the Whole World Window
RIO/Avant-Prog? I doubt that.
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica
Too weird.
Originally posted by smartpatrol smartpatrol wrote:

King Crimson - Larks Tounges in Aspic
Too hard and heavy. But I'll see how she will respond to "Exiles". 
It was a joke
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