LGBT in Progressive Rock

colorofmoney91 wrote: Well I'm done making serious threads forever. Dean, feel free to close this one if the desire strikes you. I'm out.

Don't close this thread! Some of us are still arguing in here!

colorofmoney91 wrote: Well I'm done making serious threads forever. Dean, feel free to close this one if the desire strikes you. I'm out.

I think the real problem is it really difficult to answer the question because it is near impossible to tell the sexual preference of any artist from their music or lyric, for example you cannot "get" Phideaux's sexual preference from listening to Snowtorch or Doomsday Afternoon. We tend to interpret music and lyric from our own perspective and predelictions or we imagine them singing to us (in the example of a hetro man or lesbian listening to a female singer). Sometimes even knowing that the singer is gay does not change our interpretation while other times it can, for example knowing that Dogman by King's X is about someone questioning their belief in god is one level of interpretation that changes again when you discover that Doug Pinnick was also coming to terms with his sexuality (as he said in a later interview, he was a gay man and homophobic at the same time because of his christianity).

catfood03 wrote: Epignosis wrote: My favorite female comedian is Ellen DeGeneres.  She is hilarious.  However, it kind of annoys me that she takes her homosexuality on her show.  It puts me off.  Why would that "put you off"? Admittedly, I have only seen excerpts of her TV show, but I didn't think she was as "flamboyant" as other gay celebrities. That is part of who she is. To tell her to keep her homosexuality off her show is basically asking her to get back in the closet! Is she never to mention her lovelife at all? I love the straight friends and family in my life, but I would never ask them to check their heterosexuality at the door.

Again, I worded that poorly. 

What I meant was when Ellen turns her show into a political / social forum.  It's a downer to go from laughter and dancing and then, "Let's talk about the Rutgers situation."

For an analogy, it would be like going to a Neal Morse concert where he preaches an actual sermon instead of playing songs for the whole show.

I hope that clarifies what I meant, and I'm sorry for not being clear at all.

Epignosis wrote: Certainly whom I have sex with is no one's business.

I think that Tasha might have a thing or two to say about this.

Epignosis wrote: rushfan4 wrote: Epignosis wrote: Certainly whom I have sex with is no one's business.  I think that Tasha might have a thing or two to say about this. I thought about editing my post to mention that...

Sure you did.  We know all about you rock stars and your sexual appetites. 

Epignosis wrote: rushfan4 wrote: Epignosis wrote: rushfan4 wrote: Epignosis wrote: Certainly whom I have sex with is no one's business.  I think that Tasha might have a thing or two to say about this. I thought about editing my post to mention that... Sure you did.  We know all about you rock stars and your sexual appetites.  Oh yeah baby.  Every once in a while I get to miss Jeopardy.

I believe that even Trebek would LIKE this post.

catfood03 wrote: Epignosis wrote: catfood03 wrote: Epignosis wrote: My favorite female comedian is Ellen DeGeneres.  She is hilarious.  However, it kind of annoys me that she takes her homosexuality on her show.  It puts me off.  Why would that "put you off"? Admittedly, I have only seen excerpts of her TV show, but I didn't think she was as "flamboyant" as other gay celebrities. That is part of who she is. To tell her to keep her homosexuality off her show is basically asking her to get back in the closet! Is she never to mention her lovelife at all? I love the straight friends and family in my life, but I would never ask them to check their heterosexuality at the door. Again, I worded that poorly.  What I meant was when Ellen turns her show into a political / social forum.  It's a downer to go from laughter and dancing and then, "Let's talk about the Rutgers situation." For an analogy, it would be like going to a Neal Morse concert where he preaches an actual sermon instead of playing songs for the whole show. I hope that clarifies what I meant, and I'm sorry for not being clear at all. Ok, understood. Its her show to does as she wishes, even if she wants to talk about "heavy" stuff. Personally, I'd be more annoyed if I saw her try and tiptoe around the topic of her gayness.

Sure it's her show.  But it's my TV, and I can say that I don't like something on it.

I don't want her to tiptoe around her sexuality.  When she jokes around about it, I'm fine with that.  I dislike it when her show becomes serious about really anything.  I don't watch Oprah at all. 

I genuinely don't understand what COM wanted us to do with this thread. The lesson here COM, is when you start a thread, don't "want" us to do anything. People don't work like that. If you're having fantasies about how people are going to respond, you'll always be disappointed.

lol ur gey

Except it would be much less offensive so there'd be less reason to discuss it.