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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 17:23
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

We just cut pro-bowler Bryan McKinney for showing up overweight.  That's right, the guy just ate himself out of a 6 million dollar gig. 

Pat, you think this Christian Ponder is for real in a couple years?

And this year, is McNabb likely to be anymore effective than Favre was?


I think that McNabb still has more left in the tank than Favre did. He's a flawed player (so is Favre actually), but if they manage the offense right he should still give them a solid season. He certainly won't turn the ball over like Favre did last season.

When guys show up to camp out of shape I'm always amazed. You're in a career where you'll play for 10 years if you're incredibly, incredibly lucky, and you risk that longevity because you don't feel like training in the offseason?

I'm really not a Christian Ponder fan. Although, I'm really not a college football guy so I don't have much of a real opinion on him. I feel like a lot of teams overdrafted from a mediocre QB crop this year.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 17:31
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

McNabb was atrocious last year and gives you no hope of being a long term solutions.

Eagles have been ignoring the linebacker position for years so I understand your pain there.


Well the Vikings obviously don't care. They went for f**kin Favre, dude was gunna give you 12 games (which he didn't even manage). McNabb is  not in his prime of course but cmon, the Redskins had some of the worst talent in the NFL, likewise the Vikings have a pretty good team. He'll have a good year. But yeah, probably should've picked up a long term QB over the last 2 drafts LOL

Looks like your Eagles picked up Ronnie Brown. With the Eagles pass happiness and McCoy I'm not sure how he'll even find snaps, but one hell of a back.

The Eagles have won in August for sure. Let's see if it will help them win in February though Tongue

Unlike the Vikes, G-men have filled needs...they also have big ol Linval Joseph and rookie DT stud Marvin Austin.
I say trade Osi out of division (preferably conference) for something decent and never look back. Jets need a pass rusher badly.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 17:39
Yeah we got Favre snookered last year, but you have to admit the season before that was pretty fun for Vikings fans. 

Thanks Pat, I don't know anything about this Ponder guy either, trying to get the buzz on him. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 17:49
You got what you paid for him, one great year. LOL
Just glad that a****le is gone for good!

From what I know about Ponder, not much admittedly, he looks like a good developmental QB, deff chance of becoming a good NFL player.
Personally, I liked Ryan Mallet. If I needed a QB, and had a good O-line, he'd be my pick. Dude is like 6'7", rocket arm, played in a normal offense.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 21:16
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

McNabb was atrocious last year and gives you no hope of being a long term solutions.

Eagles have been ignoring the linebacker position for years so I understand your pain there.


Well the Vikings obviously don't care. They went for f**kin Favre, dude was gunna give you 12 games (which he didn't even manage). McNabb is  not in his prime of course but cmon, the Redskins had some of the worst talent in the NFL, likewise the Vikings have a pretty good team. He'll have a good year. But yeah, probably should've picked up a long term QB over the last 2 drafts LOL

Looks like your Eagles picked up Ronnie Brown. With the Eagles pass happiness and McCoy I'm not sure how he'll even find snaps, but one hell of a back.

The Eagles have won in August for sure. Let's see if it will help them win in February though Tongue

Unlike the Vikes, G-men have filled needs...they also have big ol Linval Joseph and rookie DT stud Marvin Austin.
I say trade Osi out of division (preferably conference) for something decent and never look back. Jets need a pass rusher badly.

No way they get a 1st for Osi.

Looking forward to beating the Giants two times yet again. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 02 2011 at 21:30
Absolutely not, that's when the team needs to decide how toxic Osi is. May sounds like BS to many but addition by subtraction can work, especially with a cancer. Giants are living proof, and I do think they have the pieces to cover it. I just don't know how bad Osi is/the team chemistry. If I was a GM and felt it was bad enough, f**k it trade the guy for something. Just keep him off a division rival at least.

I just can't believe how many  LB's out there that got passed up. Nick Barnett, Thomas Howard, Justin Durant, Barrett Ruud, Posluzny, Tulloch!

If Vick stays healthy the offense is certainly ferocious but any offense can be stopped. Its the Asomugha, Samuel, Rodgers-Cromartie trio that seems like it should be illegal! That is the most frightening thought.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2011 at 11:44
Well the LB situation makes sense. I had no idea, apparently the Giants have a bad cap situation.
Also partly explains Osi, even if they wanted not sure they could even fit him in. Jacobs actually restructured his contract to help keep Bradshaw...dude is a true team player in every sense.

Rumors are Osi's deal has been dropped to a 2nd round pick, and some interested teams are the Rams and Pats. Others as well but I forget.
I feel more confident about the Giants team to cut Osi loose, the Pats would not be a yearly threat to the Giants and cmon...I know he's 29 but how can you not give up a 2nd round pick for someone who posted 11.5 sacks and 10 forced fumbles last year??
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 03 2011 at 16:31
Oh dear, triple post already? Cmon we should be excited!

If Stafford stays healthy, Scott's Lions could be dangerous. 2010 was not a bad season, and that was without a QB! They've added Tulloch and Durant, 2 damn good LBs. That good D-line. A full season from Stafford and that may be one potent team!

Also glad the G-men have gotten a new punter. Everyone knows the infamous Eagles game/Coughlin incident but take it from someone who saw all 16 games. Matt Dodge does not have what it takes. He was so bad I'd be cool if they cut him, put the defense in so many sh*tty spots and can't afford that again.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:38
Thought you guys might enjoy this, it could only happen to the Vikings.  I remember my Dad telling me about this game.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2011 at 23:47
LOL

Poor b*****d, someone from the other team goes to him first!

Running the wrong way, scoring for the other side with your team mates telling you to go back? Sounds like a cartoon!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 13:01
All the tv "experts" are drooling over the Eagles and all their additions but... when are they going to get a QB?  From what I've seen their biggest offseason move was letting their post-Vick-returning-to-pre-prison-form safety net go to the desert and adding a backup with no prayer of ever succeeding in this league.  Yeah, I'd be real hyped up if I were an Eagles fan, what with a speed RB as my starting QB and 3rd-string TE as my backup QB.  No chance, Eagles, no chance.  Did anyone watch how Vick ended last year?
 
Anyway, going to go all out with full divison record predictions:
AFC EAST:
Buffalo Bills:  6-10
Miami Dolphins:  8-8
NE Cheatriots:  12-4
NY Jets:  13-3
 
AFC NORTH
Baltimore Birdies:  10-6
Cincy Bungles:  3-13
Cleve Brownies:  5-11
Pittsburgh Steelers:  13-3 (I know, I'm biased, but we have a really soft schedule)
 
AFC SOUTH
Houston Texans:  11-5
Indy Mannings:  10-6
Jacksonville Jaguars:  6-10 
Tenn Titans:  2-14
 
AFC WEST
Denver Broncos:  3-13
KC Chiefs:  8-8
Oakland Raiders:  9-7
SD Chargers:  11-5
 
NFC EAST
Dallas Cowboys:  9-7
NY Giants:  10-6
Philly Iggles:  10-6
Wash Deadskins:  4-12
 
NFC NORTH
Chicago Bears:  6-10
Detroit Lions:  9-7
GB Packers:  14-2
Minn Vikings:  4-12
 
NFC SOUTH
Atlanta Falcons:  12-4
Carolina Panthers:  1-15
NO Saints:  13-3
TB Bucs:  7-9
 
NFC WEST
Arizona Cardinals:  10-6
SF 49ers:  6-10
Seattle Vacated National Championships:  6-10
St. Louis Rams:  9-7


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 13:18
Whew, before a single game Anton, you ballsy boi

Like I've said any offense can be stopped, and Vick made impressive improvements as a passer but it was just one season and he did kind of tail off. Have to see if he maintains, continues to improve and will he stay healthy. It's the Asomugha addition that is the most frightening.

I do want to say the Eagles won't win a Super Bowl until they run the ball more (when they do it's damn effective) but I fear those days are over. I liked the Packers a lot but they never ran it consistently, pretty much reliant on their passing game. Though it was pretty traditional so I was OK with it.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2011 at 22:35
Aw balls, lost Kevin Boss to the Raiders.
Shame, he was a good blocker and was a tall target who really held on to the ball and trucked. Gunna miss him.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 11:57
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

All the tv "experts" are drooling over the Eagles and all their additions but... when are they going to get a QB?  From what I've seen their biggest offseason move was letting their post-Vick-returning-to-pre-prison-form safety net go to the desert and adding a backup with no prayer of ever succeeding in this league.  Yeah, I'd be real hyped up if I were an Eagles fan, what with a speed RB as my starting QB and 3rd-string TE as my backup QB.  No chance, Eagles, no chance.  Did anyone watch how Vick ended last year?
 
Anyway, going to go all out with full divison record predictions:
AFC EAST:
Buffalo Bills:  6-10
Miami Dolphins:  8-8
NE Cheatriots:  12-4
NY Jets:  13-3
 
AFC NORTH
Baltimore Birdies:  10-6
Cincy Bungles:  3-13
Cleve Brownies:  5-11
Pittsburgh Steelers:  13-3 (I know, I'm biased, but we have a really soft schedule)
 
AFC SOUTH
Houston Texans:  11-5
Indy Mannings:  10-6
Jacksonville Jaguars:  6-10 
Tenn Titans:  2-14
 
AFC WEST
Denver Broncos:  3-13
KC Chiefs:  8-8
Oakland Raiders:  9-7
SD Chargers:  11-5
 
NFC EAST
Dallas Cowboys:  9-7
NY Giants:  10-6
Philly Iggles:  10-6
Wash Deadskins:  4-12
 
NFC NORTH
Chicago Bears:  6-10
Detroit Lions:  9-7
GB Packers:  14-2
Minn Vikings:  4-12
 
NFC SOUTH
Atlanta Falcons:  12-4
Carolina Panthers:  1-15
NO Saints:  13-3
TB Bucs:  7-9
 
NFC WEST
Arizona Cardinals:  10-6
SF 49ers:  6-10
Seattle Vacated National Championships:  6-10
St. Louis Rams:  9-7


So the Eagles are just as good this year as they were last year? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Pretty sure Vick is a pretty good QB now. You should be more worried about who the QB of the Redskins, Giants, and Cowboys are.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 12:00
I don't feel like looking through the schedules of every team in the league.

NFC
East - Eagles (12-4)
West - Cardinals
North - Packers
South - Falcons

AFC
East - Patriots
West - Tough one here. I'll go Chiefs again.
North - Steelers
South - Texans

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 12:03
Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

Aw balls, lost Kevin Boss to the Raiders.
Shame, he was a good blocker and was a tall target who really held on to the ball and trucked. Gunna miss him.


Must suck to already know you're losing two games to the Eagles again.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2011 at 17:13
Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

So the Eagles are just as good this year as they were last year? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Pretty sure Vick is a pretty good QB now. You should be more worried about who the QB of the Redskins, Giants, and Cowboys are.
 
 
The Eagles benefit this year from the schedule.  I think they will win on defense, not offence, and would be surprised if they blew out anyone (even the dregs of the league).  Vick is not a pretty good QB, he's just ESPN's perpetual wet-dream.  As overrated as Romo is and as overrated/inconsistent as Eli is I'd still rather have either one of them, in the long run, than Vick.  Major regression coming this year (not that it didn't already start down the stretch last year).


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 00:49
Don't really know what to think of the Ravens signing Ricky Williams.I'm pretty worried about our receiving corps now,we lost Mason and besides Boldin all our other receivers have less than 2 years experience.I think they'll go after Cotchery.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 02:27

I always hoped Ricky would run like Earl Campbell, but never had that tenacity..

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 09 2011 at 08:37
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

So the Eagles are just as good this year as they were last year? That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Pretty sure Vick is a pretty good QB now. You should be more worried about who the QB of the Redskins, Giants, and Cowboys are.
 
 
The Eagles benefit this year from the schedule.  I think they will win on defense, not offence, and would be surprised if they blew out anyone (even the dregs of the league).  Vick is not a pretty good QB, he's just ESPN's perpetual wet-dream.  As overrated as Romo is and as overrated/inconsistent as Eli is I'd still rather have either one of them, in the long run, than Vick.  Major regression coming this year (not that it didn't already start down the stretch last year).


Is that really based on anything? His regression last year was primarily due to protection breakdowns. There's not much on film to suggest anything different.
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