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Ruby900
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Posted: July 13 2011 at 05:22 |
I like them equally, but very, very different ways.
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dasa
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Posted: July 16 2011 at 03:11 |
Also like them equally, but bands are totally different. KC is KC and Yes is Yes.
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kevin4peace
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Posted: August 05 2011 at 01:30 |
KC all the way. I haven't really 'gotten' Yes' stuff after CTTE. The first 3 KC eras were all amazing.
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Nothing to say here. Nothing at all. Nothing is easy.
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clarkpegasus4001
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 13:07 |
Yes easily for me
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himtroy
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 14:12 |
King Crimson has over twenty albums I like, Yes has one that I don't like, though not as much as any of those.
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Formentera Lady
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:30 |
I don't comment. My nick and avatar says it all...
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Catcher10
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Posted: August 06 2011 at 15:43 |
I like Yes very much...well becuase I think they are much better than whatever people feel was the best KC ever recorded. So I like Yes much more.........Must be why I only have one KC album (guess).....and I have 11 Yes albums in my collection.
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Dellinger
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 19:06 |
Yes for me.
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GypsyJoker
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Posted: August 09 2011 at 19:53 |
Urgh. Like asking if I love my wife or my daughter more.
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Billy Pilgrim
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:15 |
thehallway wrote:
I think Fripp would prefer Yes and Yes would prefer KC....... and not just out of politeness.
Crimson certainly influenced Yes, but by the time they made Heart of the Sunrise they were doing their own thing, and were doing far more complex numbers than any other band at that time ('cept maybe Gentle Giant). What Epignosis said rings true..... Yes were brilliant composers, creating pieces of music on a similar level to Stravinsky and Debussy, while KC relied on improvisation and expanding small pockets of genius into long, atmospheric mood pieces. Neither band could do what the other one did best very well at all. |
That about sums it up, both great in different ways, although I do think that KC were great composers as well, Lizard is a very cohesive piece.
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ULikeThatDontYa
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Posted: August 11 2011 at 16:43 |
I really only liked a few King Crimson albums, but the majority of Yes albums are good IMO. So I prefer yes.
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thehallway
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Posted: August 12 2011 at 05:43 |
Billy Pilgrim wrote:
thehallway wrote:
I think Fripp would prefer Yes and Yes would prefer KC....... and not just out of politeness.
Crimson certainly influenced Yes, but by the time they made Heart of the Sunrise they were doing their own thing, and were doing far more complex numbers than any other band at that time ('cept maybe Gentle Giant). What Epignosis said rings true..... Yes were brilliant composers, creating pieces of music on a similar level to Stravinsky and Debussy, while KC relied on improvisation and expanding small pockets of genius into long, atmospheric mood pieces. Neither band could do what the other one did best very well at all. |
That about sums it up, both great in different ways, although I do think that KC were great composers as well, Lizard is a very cohesive piece.
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True. But chordally, I wouldn't say it approaches Yes's level of sophistication. And it's more of a "lots of linear sections" piece, rather than a rounded off, eighteen-minute "song" like Close to the Edge. The story holds it together, but the thing I love most about Lizard is spotting all the different instruments floating in and out of the mix. Chamber music at it's modern best!
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resurrection
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Posted: August 14 2011 at 00:47 |
A tough one. Crimson's album defined the genre and was more of a height than anything Yes produced. But Yes was the first of the two bands to successfully exploit the genre created by 1-2-3, and even influenced Crimson in doing so. Given that this is Prog Archives, the vote goes to Crimson for announcing the style to the world.
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moszaic
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 04:40 |
Every king crimson album has its own quality! King Crimson was unreachable and Bruford at his best...
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AbrahamSapien
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 06:24 |
Love Yes, but IMHO their only album that had reached the level of KC was Relayer. KC is more consistent.
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Warthur
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 08:28 |
I'm on King Crimson's side myself - how many other bands can you think of who so completely reinvented themselves completely three or four times over the scope of their career, and in which each phase has absolute must-have albums worthy of a listen? ITCotCK, Red and Discipline sound like entirely different bands and yet each one knocks it out of the park. Yes, on the other hand, hit a high from The Yes Album to Going For the One which they've never quite managed to recapture.
They're both wonderful bands and I wouldn't want to be without either of them, but the fact is that KC have proved to have more staying power and creativity than Yes.
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Anthony
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 10:04 |
I prefer Yes. However, King Crimson would never dare to dump Robert Fripp, so... hard choice, actually.
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Zargus
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Posted: August 25 2011 at 10:25 |
well i have to say Yes.
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ProgMetaller2112
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Posted: December 08 2012 at 02:45 |
Thank you for saying that King Crimson definitely overrated. Yes has more emotion. Does Crimson have anything that can match to Awaken? Answer is no, I'd vote Yes
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giselle
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Posted: December 08 2012 at 06:04 |
Can't agree with that at all. King Crimson's importance by far transcends that of Yes, though both bands are major and crucial contributors to this genre. Then, to be fair, Yes was an influence on Crimson in the first place (though both sprang from the same source, 1-2-3).
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