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QuestionableScum
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 17:40 |
King Crimson for me by quite a large margin.
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Moogtron III
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 17:58 |
Anthony H. wrote:
Progosopher wrote:
I like the Crims a lot, but Yes is arguably my favorite band ever. |
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Yes, I agree.
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Roland113
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 18:15 |
Gandalff wrote:
adace1 wrote:
What do you think? |
I think this topic isnīt original at all, even chest-nutty.
However, King Crimson anyway! |
I know a few others made vague references to this but you're known for inundating the polls with a slew of polls that could be considered variations on the same theme and unoriginal. Yet, the majority of us simply let you do your polls without giving you grief because it's your right to create the polls that you want to see. I think it's a fair request to ask you to be tolerant of others' polls. Remember, it's always easier to hit the back button than it is to detract from things that are important to other people.
Edited by Roland113 - June 26 2011 at 18:18
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I don't have an unnatural obsession with Disney Princesses, I have a fourteen year old daughter and coping mechanisms.
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dave-the-rave
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 19:05 |
The music of Yes transports me; while I respect the talent of KC, much of their music is hard for me to enjoy.
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Man With Hat
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 19:38 |
KC by a good bit.
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Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 20:30 |
At their prime, they could go at it in prog-battle for years.
But, I vote Yes.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 20:55 |
King Crimson but both are amazing.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Posted: June 26 2011 at 23:49 |
Yes but both are amazing.
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JS19
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 04:17 |
I find King Crimson to be the least emotional band I have ever heard. I can't listening to an album that doesn't reach me at all on that level, so It's yes by thousands of miles.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 04:23 |
Funny how the Crims are lagging behind (when they're not even guilty of having made a single toe curlingly wretched pop album to appease the MTV plankton)
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frankbostick
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 05:54 |
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Atoms
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 06:17 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
At their prime, they could go at it in prog-battle for years.
But, I vote Yes.
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Didn't expect that with your name.
You don't have to worry, I will vote for KC for you.
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dr prog
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Location: Melbourne
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 07:12 |
I think Crimson are overrated by prog fans because they were more experimental and left field than all the other bands. They were never really that popular to have big concerts either and with a long history prog fans like to support the long time underdog. But composition wise they're no better than many prog bands from the 70s really. They were a pretty good composition band while Sinfield was with them. They had a jazzy feel and used more keys in their songs. But I find them hard to really love when they had 4 singers and 4 drummers over a 3 year period. Too many changes to really love the band imo. Haskell and Burrell were pretty average vocalists too. The Wetton era is best for the slow tunes imo. Other than the slow songs the rest was mainly experimental album filling and the occasional cool riff imo. I guess I don't care for Wettons voice alot of the time though. A good bunch of albums from 1969-74 but that was it for them in the 70s. All over by 1975. Yes were a better band. Their songs were better compositions so they'll always be better. But Yes started to experiment too with 15-20 minute songs. Honestly I think they were running out of compositions by 1972 that they started dragging out songs with experimental sections of sounds and noises. They only had 2 more albums in the 70's after 1974. They were best from 1970-72 but they started to lose it a bit after that although they still had plenty of good ideas. As a whole I feel Yes are overrated by prog fans but only half as much as Crimson. I feel that bands such as Tull and Gentle giant have more quality over the 70s. Better composers over the decade
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digdug
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 07:24 |
Yes has more great albums for me
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Prog On!
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giselle
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 07:35 |
A tough one, like being asked to choose between your children. There's no doubt that King Crimson are the single most important band in Prog, but it has to be said that the influence of Yes upon King Crimson is massive too. Both owe an even greater debt to 1-2-3 of course, but that was pre-prog history, this is now.
On balance, it has to be King Crimson if such a choice really has to be made.
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thehallway
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Location: Dorset, England
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 08:32 |
Roland113 wrote:
Gandalff wrote:
adace1 wrote:
What do you think? |
I think this topic isnīt original at all, even chest-nutty.
However, King Crimson anyway! |
I know a few others made vague references to this but you're known for inundating the polls with a slew of polls that could be considered variations on the same theme and unoriginal. Yet, the majority of us simply let you do your polls without giving you grief because it's your right to create the polls that you want to see.
I think it's a fair request to ask you to be tolerant of others' polls.
Remember, it's always easier to hit the back button than it is to detract from things that are important to other people.
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Well said, saves me commenting!
Yes for me, by a tiny amount (they are my favourite two bands).
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Volume
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 09:40 |
Guess
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The T
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 12:15 |
Difficult. In general, both bands aren't my first choice for anything. I would say Yes wins overall because they have more albums I enjoy (CTTE, Fragile, Relayer, Drama, Going for the One, Magnification, Tormato -yes, I said it-) though they also have the album that best defines all I don't like in them and in many prog bands (TFTO); King Crimson, on the other hand, almost always leaves me cold, I have gotten rid of many of their albums which bored me to death, but I like Red a lot and they have one album which is a real masterpiece and which I enjoy more than all the other albums by these two bands put together: ITCOTCK.
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Hercules
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Location: Near York UK
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 12:24 |
dr prog wrote:
I think Crimson are overrated by prog fans because they were more experimental and left field than all the other bands. They were never really that popular to have big concerts either and with a long history prog fans like to support the long time underdog. But composition wise they're no better than many prog bands from the 70s really. They were a pretty good composition band while Sinfield was with them. They had a jazzy feel and used more keys in their songs. But I find them hard to really love when they had 4 singers and 4 drummers over a 3 year period. Too many changes to really love the band imo. Haskell and Burrell were pretty average vocalists too. The Wetton era is best for the slow tunes imo. Other than the slow songs the rest was mainly experimental album filling and the occasional cool riff imo. I guess I don't care for Wettons voice alot of the time though. A good bunch of albums from 1969-74 but that was it for them in the 70s. All over by 1975. Yes were a better band. Their songs were better compositions so they'll always be better. But Yes started to experiment too with 15-20 minute songs. Honestly I think they were running out of compositions by 1972 that they started dragging out songs with experimental sections of sounds and noises. They only had 2 more albums in the 70's after 1974. They were best from 1970-72 but they started to lose it a bit after that although they still had plenty of good ideas. As a whole I feel Yes are overrated by prog fans but only half as much as Crimson. I feel that bands such as Tull and Gentle giant have more quality over the 70s. Better composers over the decade |
You've summed it up very well, though personally I like John Wetton's voice. I really don't find much KC enjoyable at any level and the adulation which is directed at Fripp's guitar playing amazes me - to me he is very average. The track Red sums it up - dull, repetitive and never really goes anywhere.
Yes made some very good albums and a few turkeys, but they were light years ahead of KC.
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Dellinger
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Posted: June 27 2011 at 21:49 |
I love both, of course, but Yes is almost unbeatable for me. Well, Fragile and CttE are just flawless, with a flawless line-up.
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