Genesis vs. Death

LOL, this thread is so full of fail that it even borked the page layout 

CCVP wrote: rogerthat wrote: Triceratopsoil wrote: All the best death metal includes a healthy portion of thrash anyway, so yes, Scream Bloody Gore is death metal.   'Best' is in the eyes of the beholder but quintessential death metal is quite a big break from thrash. It would not come into being until grindcore and the associated goregrind evolved to a certain level of brutality.  The kind of primal extreme metal Death were playing was already being played by Slayer, Sodom, Kreator, Slaughter, Sepultura, Hellhammer among many others so there's absolutely no factual reason to call SBG the first death metal album or even death metal.  At least w.r.t Slayer the 'clean' vocals stop it being called death but I don't see that problem either with In the Sign of Evil or Bestial Devastation. Not to mention Seven Churches, of course, which had already made significant steps towards a more death metal-like structure moving away from thrash metal's more rigid and generally predictable structure (at that point).   Even Cannibal Corpse current albums are reminescent of thrash metal, both styles have much in common since death metal is basically an evolution of thrash metal and Scream Bloody Gore was at least a step ahead frrom other thrash metal albums.

In what way is it such a significant step ahead from Seven Churches that it and not that album should be considered the first death metal album? I fail to see.  And even though Cannibal Corpse are thrashier than Morbid Angel, it is still far removed from that primal kind of extreme metal Death were making at that time.   I might grant that Eaten Back to Life is quite thrashy but by Butchered..., it is already not like thrash metal at all. Yes, the riffs evoke thrash metal but in terms of structure, it really couldn't be more different whereas SBG is still quite linear compared to such albums.

EDIT: That many of the significant early death metal releases of not only Morbid Angel but bands like Obituary, Autopsy all date from around 1990 demonstrates that that was the cut off. Death metal as just something more brutal than quintessential thrash metal has existed from around 1984.  The releases of Possessed, Death, Sepultura along with Napalm Death, Carcass, Repulsion on the grind flank were influential in the formation of a death metal scene.  Death metal simply didn't take off in 1987, period. 


Edited by rogerthat - June 20 2011 at 09:24

I'm voting for death. The 1970's punk band Death. Just because I said so.

I chose death instead of participating in another Gandalff thread. 

lazland wrote: Horizons wrote: I chose death instead of participating in another Gandalff thread.    Could be worse. It could be another Survivor poll.

I'm hesitating about Gandalff Survivor poll.

Cristi wrote: LOL why have these two bands in a poll? is it trolling? I could troll too, I'll make a poll Yes vs Obituary and Beatles vs Carcass

Andy Webb wrote: Walton Street wrote: Cristi wrote: LOL why have these two bands in a poll? is it trolling? I could troll too, I'll make a poll Yes vs Obituary and Beatles vs Carcass     your nickname should really be Lazarus :) Seriously, what other poll is going to be necroposted?

sorry guys, I'll stop if it bothers you. I for one am having fun. Was I not supposed to have fun?

Death by far, I do enjoy a few Genesis songs but never been able to get into them much.

Edited by Pastmaster - February 04 2015 at 12:05

Michael678 wrote: of course Genesis is winning by a landslide. Vote #60 for them!!!

Only because everyone thought the poll was listening to Genesis vs. literally dying