Genesis vs. Death

Genesis would've had Death beaten in my heart if they'd had just one more album as consistent as Selling England. As it stands, the Death material beginning with Human and ending with my favorite death metal album of all time, Sounds of Perseverance, swiftly defeats anything by Genesis for me. 

All instruments aside- I say Death wins in an all out fight. Death wins. 

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: 1.- Unsuccessful: From a Prog perspective? I believe not:

I think Caio had general success in mind, not success only between proggers.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Genesis, like it or not are icons for 90% of Prog listeners and 100% know about them, Death are known by a small percentage, I guess not more than 20% if even.

Yes but once you change the system of references to the overall music scene, prog bands don't come close to metal bands in term of success.

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Harmonium....This is a Prog site.

So we shouldn't be allowed to discuss things from a general perspective, only a prog perspective?

CCVP wrote: JJLehto wrote: Caio  Death is more than just a death metal band, not one of the millions that all sound alike and try to be uber br00tal. They more or less made the sound. Their later stuff also moved into more technical territory, and were a huge influence on tech metal. They are true innovators in metal and Chuck was a great songwriter. Even their old stuff had some groove and real movement to it, not just bashing their instruments away. The comments have been pretty civil actually, I expected them all to be "WHAT DEATH HAS SO MANY VOTES WHAT THE HELL?" Anyway, some Genesis is pretty good but Death has made much more good material and had way more innovation and impact on its genre than Genesis did for its. Indeed. He improved on every released record, unlike some english band who actually got worse with every passing record. Just for the record (lol, Marillion quote), I don't hate Genesis.

I don't hate Genesis either. Don't even dislike em I enjoy a few albums, but yeah which do I prefer? Death has made nothing but gold really, (silver at worst) and they did improve and change a bit every album.
Shame that most here will think "lol death metal silly kids"
I get not liking it, but Chuck was a great musical mind, and so many will never realize

Oh and yeah Genesis is good but far less consistent and really...they were another prog rock band.



Edited by JJLehto - June 15 2011 at 20:08

Now Iván, let me make things clear for you. Death created a whole new genre, which is death metal. You got to credit them whether you like the music or not. I for one don't even give a rat's arse about Death's albums but I respect them a lot.

Edited by Polo - June 15 2011 at 20:27

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Edited by stonebeard - June 15 2011 at 20:44

Death's impact on music, and correct me if I am wrong, is only metal whereas Genesis impact stretched beyond progressive rock when they entered pop.  Genesis where a huge pop band and helped define pop music that we know and love.  Genesis are more influential when considering music as a whole since they had a impact on various genre's. Not that I mean to disrespect Death, however.  They were a highly innovative band, even if I don't like death metal.

Edited by Garden of Dreams - June 15 2011 at 21:05

No.
No.
You keep talking about taste. You've yet to give the band any respect. I don't give a frogs piss about taste, we all have our own and are entitled to it. You just seemed to disregard what Death did for metal, a huge genre. To be fair you still are, you keep going on about taste...what some of us were trying to say is the band had a huge influence on metal. Respect them for that is all, as a fan of music. There is nothing wrong with it all Ivan, but that is useless to the discussion, your personal taste has nothing to do with it. Sensitive? Erm, you are clearly not familiar with my posting style are you?

How influential was Genesis on prog rock? They were big yeah but what did they do unique or innovative? Before people get into a fan storm...I like their music a lot. Just don't see them as having much real impact on prog rock, other than the fact they were a big name.


Edited by JJLehto - June 15 2011 at 21:10

JJLehto wrote: No. No. You keep talking about taste. You've yet to give the band any respect. I