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Bonnek 
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 Posted: May 01 2011 at 12:43 |
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I usually ignore lyrics, that's why I probably listen more to instrumental music and to Prog then to singer-songwriters.
Also modern metal is a winner, as growls have the advantage that you can't understand the lyrics.
In the Prog realm, it's only Hammill's lyrics that have intrigued me somewhat over the years.
Edited by Bonnek - May 01 2011 at 12:44
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 12:35 |
If you'd stick to instrumental prog this wouldn't be a problem. 
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Tapfret
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:48 |
 prog058 wrote:
Most prog musicians probably don't take an interest in language and literature |
Umm, what?  No RD Laing in Gentle Giant, eh? No Ayn Rand or Samuel Taylor Coolridge in Rush, eh? The overall OP premise is misguided. I don't think prog has any worse lyrics than any other genre. You want maybe they switch to hip-hop lyrics? Should Jon Anderson sing more about cappin' sucka's? Should Annie Haslam sing about havin' to keep her womanhood extremely tight?
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Dean
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:16 |
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is this the right moment to say "Peter Hammill" or should I leave that for later?
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SouthSideoftheSky
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:15 |
prog058 wrote:
Most prog musicians probably don't take an interest in language and literature |
You are joking, right?! There is no other genre of music that has so many concept albums inspired by literature as progressive Rock! I think that in general the lyrics in Prog are of a higher standard than in other kinds of music, and many Prog bands write lyrics that are a million times more interesting, poetic and sophisticated than what you find in non-progressive Rock and Pop. Then, of course, there are exceptions in both directions.
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nathan797
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 11:01 |
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Nothing wrong with Fish he writes very well in some peoples opinion mine included
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The Truth
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 10:41 |
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What's wrong with Fish? His lyrics fit the themes he's writing about perfectly.
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Mushroom Sword
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 10:40 |
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Pink Floyd's Animals is a great example of a good mix between great lyrics and sounds. But I've also observed that many rap songs use very interesting lyrics and combinations of words, because the music is dependent on them. With such a strong influence of Jazz and reliance on the skill of the musicians in "prog", The instrumental aspects need to be much stronger. I personally don't believe that the quality of lyrics is what makes me judge the music. And also, you could turn the concept around, "Does amazing lyrics make the music amazing?"
No.
Frank Zappa, some believe he's a genius writer, some find his lyrics a little embarrassing, it depends on what you consider, "good lyrics". I would say he is a great lyricist, but it doesn't make me enjoy the music any more.
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NotAProghead
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 10:28 |
I don't think that " Most prog musicians probably don't take an interest in language and literature". There are good and bad lyricists in any genre. Though in prog bad writers try to hide the lack of lyrical talent behind the wall of sounds and sometimes it works. Listeners telling "I don't care much about the lyrics" help these unfortunate ones not to die of hunger.  |
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Dean
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 10:19 |
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prog058
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Posted: May 01 2011 at 09:48 |
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This could also be called the Fish appreciation thread.
Prog bands, while excelling musically, are often lackluster in the lyrical department.
Most prog musicians probably don't take an interest in language and literature, and this is probably the reason why.
What are your thoughts?
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