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NotAProghead 
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Errors & Omissions Team Joined: October 22 2005 Location: Russia Status: Offline Points: 7861 |
 Posted: April 24 2011 at 19:23 |
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The title looks like a message to Jon Anderson
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Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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tupan
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Posted: April 24 2011 at 16:47 |
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That album will bwe with Benoît David?
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"Prog is Not Dead and never has been." (Will Sergeant, from Echo And The Bunnymen)
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Theriver
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Joined: March 13 2010 Location: Lisbon Portugal Status: Offline Points: 181 |
Posted: April 24 2011 at 16:05 |
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What to think of the following?
i ll say it will a year after the release a 3.35 average rating, just a wild guess (for fun).
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twosteves
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Posted: April 04 2011 at 13:31 |
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It's hard to keep up with the DRAMA---but most of it comes from 3 guys who want to work all the time and two others (Jon and Rick) who for health reasons can't. The two controlled the group for years until finally the other 3 had to make a move. As far as Oliver goes--(he didn't impress live) and it seems when he got in the studio he didn't impress there either so producer Trevor Horn phoned up his friend Downes to record. I'm not sure if Yes booted him or Horn started this in motion. For me a long time fan--I would have been happy if they recorded with Jon and toured with Benoit. Because Jon can't tour he admits it in a recent interview and Rick doesn't want to tour a lot.
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Bassthang
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Joined: August 09 2006 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 24 |
Posted: April 04 2011 at 11:21 |
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I can't keep up with all the changes and politics in Yes.
You'd think that after all these years, they'd have learned to put their differences aside and work together.
I agree that Oliver seemed like he was taking a back seat when I saw them in 2009, but given the rest of the talent in the group, it must be hard to make an impression (after all, Yes have never had a poor keyboardist). Benoit really impressed me. Not only is it amazing that he sounds so much like Jon, but he had the biggest fan backlash to deal with at gigs, yet managed to project himself confidently.
I hope that Oliver can continue to contribute in some capacity to the recording. After spending all this time on the road with Yes, he deserves a permanent entry in the discography.
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twosteves
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 18:53 |
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I think it's a good move--I saw O.Wakeman live with the group and it was not good. He seemed timid and not self assured and had no strong playing style which for me is a disaster in a group like Yes. Downes has a style and is somewhat of a showman. I wonder if there was a time when Benoit's head was on the chopping block and the Drama line-up would reunite. Anyway I might go see them now---I was going to skip it--as I'm one of those long time fans who think it's not the same without Jon. Even thought I think maybe he tried to control too much of everything in the last 20 years.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 18:37 |
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Really a creepy looking bunch, incredibly Steve Howe looks younger than most of the rest. I guess the fat guy with classes is Teevor Horn, but he's among the younger in the group (Except for Benoit David and Geoff Downes who is three years younger) But except for Geoffry (Born in 1952) and of course Benoit, none of them is that old to look like them. Iván
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chopper
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:51 |
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Quite frankly you should know better. You could at least have linked to a track from Love Beach or something. |
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:32 |
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God will get me for that, don't worry.
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Padraic
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:30 |
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Yeah, Rob, what's up with the rickroll? |
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chopper
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:26 |
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Why is there a link to Rebecca Black on YouTube in this post? |
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cstack3
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:09 |
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I'm just being a good "journalist" and posting them as they appear. I don't know how Trevor would be able to "insist" upon replacing Wakeman with Downes, as I wouldn't think he would rate that kind of influence. Ollie's the better keyboardist by far. I still think this has Squire's fingerprints all over it. He should have called this something else, like the old "Cinema" project. Rent must be due or something.
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cstack3
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:06 |
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LOL!! I see why they brought in Benoit David....he's the only one likely to score any chicks!! What a rough-lookin' bunch these days!! Squire needs a new 'do, he looks like Barbara Bush or something. And, who's the porker with the sunglasses?? |
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 16:00 |
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This source you posted earlier says that Trevor Horn insisted on replacing Wakeman with Downes. |
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cstack3
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:55 |
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Ollie did get axed, see this: http://heavyrocktheplaylist.blogspot.com/2011/03/yes-new-album-fly-from-here-out-in-july.html Maybe the music will be OK (I like Drama, but it is not my favorite Yes album), but we'll have to wait and see. Squire seems to be the engineer of these moves, a bit heartless in my eyes. Ollie was a nice bridge to the distant past of Yes. |
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twosteves
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:46 |
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Did Oliver get the axe? He's not in picture or in press release which says Downes is now in Yes on keys.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 15:29 |
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cstack3
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 12:34 |
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"Drama"....what an appropriate name! More like "Drama Queens"!!
Whatever, I don't know why we care so much....I think Anderson was treated shabbily by his bandmates, but if this generates some decent music, well, it's long overdue from this bunch. So, which bandmember has the duty to write the goofy "Yes" lyrics I wonder?
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 11:35 |
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Yep, but Trevor Horn was a different vocalist, that made it great, Benoit David is a new version of Jon Anderson. And Oliver Wakeman is not Geoff Downes. Nepotism doesn't work in music. To be honest, after Drama I lost the faith in Yes. Iván
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TheGazzardian
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Posted: March 31 2011 at 11:26 |
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That sounds good to me - implies that Fly From Here is the only one written in the Drama era (probably why Horn is insisting Downes plays on it). Meaning we are getting new tracks, thank goodness.
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