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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2010 at 18:12
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:


This is the only change that makes any sense.
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Originally posted by <span id=userPro3990525 title=View Drop Down>Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

It would be more useful to stop ratings until an album is released, at least we would avoid annoying reviews of people who were never able to listen the album.

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I don't even agree with this.  We get many albums prior to their release date specifically for the purpose of reviewing them.

Of course, even when I normally wait until the album is released, I admit some reviews should be accepted.............But EXCLUSIVELY  with a mention of how you got the album LEGALLY, and in no way a rating without review should be admitted before the album is released.

If somebody is found lying, not only the review should be deleted, but the member suspended.

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Points: 8622 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2010 at 02:08
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2010 at 08:32
Originally posted by Tapfret Tapfret wrote:

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Abuse could be greatly curtailed by making pre-release reviews a collaborator only privilege.

Never said collaborator only....Any member who can justify how he/she got the album would be OK.

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Points: 8622 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 22 2010 at 10:53
I know you didn't. I'm suggesting it now.

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Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I feel like this has been brought up before and shot down, but the search function sucks.

Shouldn't the pop-up message, which displays when rating an album 5 stars, also show when rating an album one star?


Pop-ups should be forbidden by law. Their an utter nuisance and serve no purpose at all. Away with them!
Besides, they never stopped anybody from doing what they intended to do. The 5 star rating overkill on PA proves it.

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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Adding to the good idears, that is prob. not possible, it would be cool if you could earn 6 stars.
Lets say, you start out with just 1, 6 star rating, Your favorite album.
Then after every 30 reviews you do, will earn you another 6 star rating. And you can never have more than one 6 star, at the same artist (as in this is the absolute masterpiece from Jethro Tull) But you can allways change you 6 star if you like. 6 stars can only be used with a review.
 
Glad im not the programmer though.  
 


Due to the devaluation of 5 stars and the abscence of half-stars on PA, I would like this option very much.
And as you suggested, only available for reviews and only in relation to your total number of reviews.
One out of 30 reviews (or 3,33% of total reviews) sounds cool !

And oh, I am a web developer, but luckily not here so I have no guilt supporting such an elaborate change proposal Big smile



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I still believe that 0.5 stars would help a lot.

We don't even need to change the existing reviews unless you want to do so.

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dbl post sorry 

Edited by tamijo - December 23 2010 at 05:32
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Dumped into this today
 
Dont know if i should laugh or cry, 30 symphonic ratings, 30,  5 star masterpieces.
 


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Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Points: 4521 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 27 2010 at 17:53

^ I'm sure there's a connection there between the bands in that list but I just can't nail it.
Hmm... Didn't they all have Chuck Schuldiner on vocals?
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Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by Equality 7-2521 Equality 7-2521 wrote:

I feel like this has been brought up before and shot down, but the search function sucks.

Shouldn't the pop-up message, which displays when rating an album 5 stars, also show when rating an album one star?


Pop-ups should be forbidden by law. Their an utter nuisance and serve no purpose at all. Away with them!
Besides, they never stopped anybody from doing what they intended to do. The 5 star rating overkill on PA proves it.


That's not the point. The point is the site has a pop up. The pop up mentions 5 star and 1 star ratings, but doesn't display for 1 star ratings. Either remove the text from the pop up or add the pop up to the one star. I didn't start this thread to debate the relative merits of a pop up vs. no pop up format.

Also, the 5 star 'overkill' shows no such thing. As I seem to have to keep saying, you would expect that people review 5 star albums more frequently than any other star rating so it seems plausible to have a high degree of those, especially from people with a limited number of reviews. 
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^ you got me there, I admit never read that message, I never read pop-ups with just an "ok" button, it's my developper background probably Embarrassed
I certainly didn't know it said anything about 1 star albums as well.

As to the 5 star overkill, I disagree, there are too many of them and it bothers me, especially in case of fan-boyism and tactical votes.
But agreed, it's usually ok with the reviews/reviewers that I find relevant.
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Points: 14258 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 06:46
Interesting.... not much you can do about those repeated 5 star rating offenders - hopefully they dont make too much of a difference to the overall rating.
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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

Dumped into this today
 
Dont know if i should laugh or cry, 30 symphonic ratings, 30,  5 star masterpieces.
 


Who's the user? We can report that, you know.


Me thinks someone from Transatlantic did that lol
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Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

Who's the user? We can report that, you know.
Me thinks someone from Transatlantic did that lol

This makes me cry Cry. I always think a long time before I rate an album, and these people undermine my efforts.

This page is a starting point to find some of the fanboys (or girls):
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12285
Simply click on Show all reviews/ratings, then click on all the 5 people, who gave this album 5 stars. They simply throw around with 5 stars without thinking.
The one (EVE123) from the above example is not the worst. She at least tries to justify herself with some reviews. The others do not even care about that.
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 01 2011 at 21:27
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by Starhammer Starhammer wrote:

Who's the user? We can report that, you know.
Me thinks someone from Transatlantic did that lol

This makes me cry Cry. I always think a long time before I rate an album, and these people undermine my efforts.

This page is a starting point to find some of the fanboys (or girls):
http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=12285
Simply click on Show all reviews/ratings, then click on all the 5 people, who gave this album 5 stars. They simply throw around with 5 stars without thinking.
The one (EVE123) from the above example is not the worst. She at least tries to justify herself with some reviews. The others do not even care about that.

That's not against the rules, as far as I know, and there's no way for us to guard against overdoing fanboy behavior without also unfairly penalizing people who are being honest and genuine. But you shouldn't let it bother you: a rating only is almost worthless in the final average.

I agree there should be a dialogue for 1 star, although people are generally more delicate with one star than they are for five.
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Points: 1840 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2011 at 11:05
Here is another one, who is not delicate at all with one stars. Actually 5 stars are too many to choose from, only top and flop exist:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32231

(I know it is not illegal, just saying.)
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Points: 19557 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 02 2011 at 13:02
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Here is another one, who is not delicate at all with one stars. Actually 5 stars are too many to choose from, only top and flop exist:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32231

(I know it is not illegal, just saying.)

Not illegal I agree...But the guy is a rating terroristic troll

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Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Here is another one, who is not delicate at all with one stars. Actually 5 stars are too many to choose from, only top and flop exist:

http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=32231

(I know it is not illegal, just saying.)

Not illegal I agree...But the guy is a rating terroristic troll

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This really is lazy ratings of CDs. 1 or 5 star..... no imagination utilsed and useless ratings.
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