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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:55 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Have I missed something relating to Titanium?
Titanium Man was cool though. |
yeah it was mentioned last year
Now I am here in the new year. It should prove to be a great one. Hope you can post more reviews Snow. i have a heap of albums to review. |
Me? Review?
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:55 |
Edited by AtomicCrimsonRush - December 31 2010 at 10:17
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:56 |
Snow Dog wrote:
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Have I missed something relating to Titanium?
Titanium Man was cool though. |
yeah it was mentioned last year
Now I am here in the new year. It should prove to be a great one. Hope you can post more reviews Snow. i have a heap of albums to review. |
Me? Review?
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haha
crossed wires here Snow
crossed wires
good one to begin the year - its only 2:56am
dang I better go soon
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:57 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
I would if I understood the Titanium reference. |
that wasnt you i was talkin to Snow - i was talking to OP
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I know. But I can't see where you mention it. Unless you edited it out. Might explain the ?
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:58 |
I edited it cos it was a worthless remark - said in jest and it didnt go down well.
lead balloon is the phrase.
I am harmless you know that....
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Snow Dog
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 09:59 |
Ah. Well that explains why the hell I don't understand what is going on.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:02 |
exactly
(sigh) now what else shall we talk about?
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CCVP
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:10 |
AtomicCrimsonRush wrote:
exactly
(sigh) now what else shall we talk about? |
How about beer?
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:11 |
can you actually talk about beer?
er.. you start then.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 10:12 |
I shall drink wine at the hour between years.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: December 31 2010 at 20:47 |
Speaking of alcohol, I really like PA but I think most of the frisson generated on the forums is caused by what we think is pure Prog (single malt) being superior to erm... progressive music (blended malts) BTW Both have the power to intoxicate For me at any rate, PA has reached something of a crossroads where it's much too late to go back to an exclusive policy for admissions and we should perhaps concede that the site will continue to mutate and evolve into a portal for all types of rock genres that its members deem worthy of inclusion by sheer dint of the music's originality, innovation and unorthodoxy etc. e.g. I can imagine the likes of say Patti Smith, Television, The Fall, Magazine, The Cure and Wall of Voodoo happily co-existing in the future with the the core bands like Yes, ELP, Crimson, Genesis etc We needn't necessarily think of the future representing a dilution, think of it as a mixer (or a cocktail)
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Bonnek
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Posted: January 01 2011 at 03:28 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
e.g. I can imagine the likes of say Patti Smith, Television, The Fall, Magazine, The Cure and Wall of Voodoo happily co-existing in the future with the the core bands like Yes, ELP, Crimson, Genesis etc
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I'd be happy to give them a "yes" on the "Experimental/Post Metal" charts, hips
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Atavachron
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Posted: January 01 2011 at 03:47 |
coffee and snacks would be nice, maybe some fresh fruit, and I'm still waiting for my Frank Zappa shower cap
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moshkito
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Posted: February 10 2011 at 14:46 |
ExittheLemming wrote:
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For me at any rate, PA has reached something of a crossroads where it's much too late to go back to an exclusive policy for admissions and we should perhaps concede that the site will continue to mutate and evolve into a portal for all types of rock genres that its members deem worthy of inclusion by sheer dint of the music's originality, innovation and unorthodoxy etc. ...
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Something like that ... and perhaps design/define a "chart" like .... (can't remember his name) did on that one discussion about the definition and such ... and it would help. I think that sometimes we have these sub-genre's but the relationships and connections are in one's mind, and these should be more visible, to help us all see the connections better, and not think that ... you gotta be kidding me!
ExittheLemming wrote:
... e.g. I can imagine the likes of say Patti Smith, Television, The Fall, Magazine, The Cure and Wall of Voodoo happily co-existing in the future with the the core bands like Yes, ELP, Crimson, Genesis etc ...
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The problem is that we're limiting the artistic design and feelings in the artists, and I am not sure that is a good thing to do. Some of these became more "popular" than the others, and I am not sure I would not consider Patti Smith "progressive" (Radio Ethiopia sure is!), mostly because we are strictly comparing her music to Yes, ELP and KC and Genesis, and refusing to accept that other things can be progressive, and immediatly add a sub-genre, so that we do not get that royal carpet stained!
I do think, and stated before, that we are being way too limiting on these curmudgeons, and that they are not, and were not, the only ones that were exploring and created something different ... and that is a position that is very difficult to help people understand music, its history, and its application in the time and place, that helped create it in the first place.
In essence, what Patti (or Laurie, or many other NY'rs) were doing, is no different than what these royals did ... but it's not gonna get the respect because we have holed ourselves up in a corner and defined a music style, instead of the artistry of it all. There is a difference. One is limiting, the other is not.
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We needn't necessarily think of the future representing a dilution, think of it as a mixer (or a cocktail)
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Yeah ... but are we doing that to the "royals". And the answer is ... nope, maybe?
The culprit in all this, is not the music or the art ... it is the proliferation of everything else and simply too much music to listen to and too many flavors. Those "royals" are big for us, because there was no one else doing it ... and today, some of them would get trashed viciously for the work ... I know that is a hard exercise, but if we heard Endless Enigma today, instead of 40 years ago ... the first thing we would all say is ... who the fudge do they think they are? ... we would get rather peed at the attitude, and turn around and say ... that's a terrible singer!
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