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lazland 
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 Posted: November 20 2010 at 12:06 |
 Adams Bolero wrote:
Pink Floyd due to their work up to Dark Side of the Moon. |
What's wrong with after that? 
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Adams Bolero
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Posted: November 20 2010 at 11:30 |
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Pink Floyd due to their work up to Dark Side of the Moon.
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Posted: November 20 2010 at 01:47 |
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KANG CRAMSAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Chela
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Posted: November 20 2010 at 01:13 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
I'm afraid this is quite an anticlimactic final (for me, anyway)...
I believe if Genesis or Yes were paired up with KC or PF in the final, THAT would've been a bit more interesting...
I really don't know who to vote for...I enjoy both, but I'll vote PF to make it more entertaining  |
I believe we had this conversation a few days ago,
and came to the same conclusion 
Edited by Chela - November 20 2010 at 13:30
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 19:24 |
questionsneverknown wrote:
Hawkwise wrote:
So is this battle of who is more prog than the Other ? or is it battle of who's music you like to listen to the most ?
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I think if the poll has always asked us, who is your favourite progressive band, or who do you think is the best progressive band, then judging the group by whatever your own criteria for progressiveness isn't in the least bit irrelevant.
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Ideally, that still ought NOT to be relevant. I would not call Genesis more progressive than Magma but I do like their music more, and I mean their prog rock albums.
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uduwudu
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 17:07 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
I'm afraid this is quite an anticlimactic final (for me, anyway)...
I believe if Genesis or Yes were paired up with KC or PF in the final, THAT would've been a bit more interesting...
I really don't know who to vote for...I enjoy both, but I'll vote PF to make it more entertaining |
That would make a fun post poll poll... if you see what I mean. When KC have won this one, make the next one... ooh, say in a day or two when everyone's forgotten this result and we can enjoy  / argue bitterly   about it all again. A kind of post poll remaster / reissue thing. 
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 17:02 |
Lark the Starless wrote:
I really don't know who to vote for...I enjoy both, but I'll vote PF to make it more entertaining |
Lark the Starless votes against Larks and Starless? .... 
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Lark the Starless
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 15:59 |
I'm afraid this is quite an anticlimactic final (for me, anyway)...
I believe if Genesis or Yes were paired up with KC or PF in the final, THAT would've been a bit more interesting...
I really don't know who to vote for...I enjoy both, but I'll vote PF to make it more entertaining |
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chrijom
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:26 |
The overated boring drudge against the ultimate progressive rock band of all time what a toughy! 
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LateralMe
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:25 |
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I really hope Crimson wins this one.
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A Flower!?
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SaltyJon
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:22 |
Hawkwise wrote:
So is this battle of who is more prog than the Other ? or is it battle of who's music you like to listen to the most ?
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Poll Question: Which band do you prefer? Has nothing to do with which is "more prog".
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uduwudu
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:21 |
Not sure how progression is measured but PF went from creating a psychedelic classic (regarded as a pop album for some obscure reason... Piper only has 1 chorus on it... that is some sort of progression...) to staging opera (Ca Ira - I know it's just Rog (sic) but he counts) and presenting and inspiring theatre, doing films and soundtracks and concerts. KC annexed symphonic prog, told everyone what to do, how to do it then climbed their own mountain. In a very rough analogy KC are the superdeveloped engine (unseen by many but stunning those who know) while PF are the super developed fuselage and chassis (the blues. classical engine is a quality engine shared by many) who impress virtually all who touch, all who see, all a band could ever be... Or another analogy. KC are the laboratory while PF are the ...zoo...???  Both changed throughout. PF from album to album, KC from sections of albums to sections albums... a bit like Rush in that respect. Frankly you can't go to far wrong with either contender.
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questionsneverknown
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:51 |
Hawkwise wrote:
So is this battle of who is more prog than the Other ? or is it battle of who's music you like to listen to the most ?
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Well, for what it's worth, this question has come up again and again throughout the tournament. It's not an unreasonable question to ask. I think if the poll has always asked us, who is your favourite progressive band, or who do you think is the best progressive band, then judging the group by whatever your own criteria for progressiveness isn't in the least bit irrelevant.
But if we just want to go with who we like to listen to better, then it's still Crimson for me.
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:36 |
So is this battle of who is more prog than the Other ? or is it battle of who's music you like to listen to the most ? On the first question i couldn't give a flying Pig on the second which it should be about , Floyd just made better albums Tours and Films . so FLOYD it is 
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:23 |
octopus-4 wrote:
16 more Floydians, please.... |
Floydian reporting in
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rogerthat
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:16 |
KC but not because they are the 'progressive one' but because Red is my all time favourite music album.  It really comes down to Red versus DSOTM, both incredible bands at the end of the day, so hard to choose.
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:14 |
cyclysm748 wrote:
aginor wrote:
Pink Floyd is more what to say, refined, they found their sound and exiled in it while King Crimson was sort of the schizoid prog band which did not really found any real base, prog nomads, while Floyd went out to the outer space Crimson went to different dimensions and wormholes,
Pink Floyd is like a pasta bolognese, plain but delicious, while King Crimson is more like a shish kebab it is filled with loads of different vegetables, meat and spices and taste allot of different things, very exiting |
What is a pasta bolognaise? Apparently it is plain but delicious, like fresh baked bread. |
I spelled it wrong but this is the dish
pasta bolognese
Pink Floyd
shish kebab
King Crimson
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The Monodrone
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:36 |
Interestingly, I believe these are the two most influential bands for Steven Wilson (as stated in some random internet interview).
My pick is certainly King Crimson, probably my all-around favorite progressive band.... I'm a Pink Floyd fan, but I don't love them.
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:21 |
I don't understand how cutting a word can transform it into two different words. If Pink Floyd are not "prog", are they "ressive" ?
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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questionsneverknown
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:13 |
UndercoverBoy wrote:
questionsneverknown wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The progressive one.
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Exactly. |
Sorry if you've already explained this in a previous thread, but can you tell me why Pink Floyd isn't progressive? Personally, when I listen to albums like A Saucerful of Secrets, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle I can't see how you can call them anything but. Even the "commercial" albums still have undeniable progressive tendencies. |
I can't speak for Walter, but I have mentioned in earlier threads my thoughts on this. It really is a truly subjective response on my part--I just somehow have never thought of Pink Floyd as a Prog band. That isn't a criticism of the group; it's a statement of how I perceive and think about the music I hear. I was genuinely surprised a few years ago when I started picking up magazines (such as a Mojo special) that put Floyd on the cover as the best Prog band of all time.
Please don't get me wrong, this has nothing to do with like or dislike for me. I've been a longtime fan of Pink Floyd and think they are a simply stunning rock band, one of the best of all time. It's just that somehow my head does not place them in the Prog category.
I think it was Logan who made a great response in the earlier thread that the problem may be a distinction between Prog and progressive (however we want to make such distinctions). I do think Pink Floyd has illustrated a progressive career, especially over the stretch of albums you mention, but they have never struck me as a Prog band. But why that is, I still haven't been able to articulate fully. As I say, it's a rather subjective thing for me.
Having said all that, I think Floyd's progressive period runs from Pipers to Meddle. The albums that come after are absolutely iconic in the rock canon, but I'm not sure I quite see the Prog or progressive element there. I chose King Crimson because I think they have displayed a much more adventurous spirit throughout their career as a whole. I can think of few bands who have reinvented themselves again and again so constantly and with such astonishing results.
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