Battle of the Prog Bands Finals (Over, don't vote)
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Topic: Battle of the Prog Bands Finals (Over, don't vote)
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Subject: Battle of the Prog Bands Finals (Over, don't vote)
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:35
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At last, here we are at the final match of Battle of the Prog Bands. The two contenders are Pink Floyd and King Crimson. Vote for your favorite, and the band with the most votes will be the winner of Battle of the Prog Bands. Please do not vote unless you have listened to at least one album by both bands (which hopefully everyone here has done.) Here is the tournament thus far:  The final results will be posted on November 24. Pink Floyd is the band that got me into Prog and music in general, but I have to give my vote to King Crimson. If they win this tournament, I (almost) couldn't be more happy.
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Posted By: Rune2000
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:38
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It's amazing that none of the Symphony Prog bands have made it to the finals! My vote goes to the band that made my all time favorite album.  |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:38
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I prefer King Crimson.
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Posted By: Mr. Maestro
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:38
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So, this is it, huh? Floyd for me, easily, but I can't imagine it will be so for everyone else.
Let the fingernail-biting begin! ------------- "I am the one who crossed through space...or stayed where I was...or didn't exist in the first place...." |
Posted By: Elderflower Man
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:39
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Again, my vote rests in the court of the Crimson King. I love you, Pink Floyd, but in my opinion, King Crimson could be the greatest progressive band ever to exist. ------------- All your hearts now seem so far from me, It hardly seems to matter now. |
Posted By: 40footwolf
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:42
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Long Live the King! ------------- Heaven's made a cesspool of us all. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:43
| Pink Floyd |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:44
| The progressive one. |
Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:45
I voted for KC but I don't think they deserve this title  . Next time I'll vote for PF. ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 16:46
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Crimso |
Posted By: snobb
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 17:32
Not so bad, isn't it? 
I love Pink Floyd, but King Crimson is unique |
Rune2000 wrote:Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 17:32
  This will be difficult... I don't know if I'll be able to vote. Too tough. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:02
| Pink Floyd is more consistent with me, so they get my vote. |
Posted By: tdfloyd
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:04
| Not close for me: Pink Floyd! |
Posted By: anoblesoul
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:08
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Hmmm.... Tough one. Both are deserving, influential, prolific, and have interesting stories. I'm kind of glad I can't vote. |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:19
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Both bands are amazing and among my favorites, but Crimson wins this by a country mile. Come on, their name is synonymous with prog.
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Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:21
Exactly. A tip of the hat (and a vote) to Fripp & Co. Wow, so this is it? We've reached the end. This all started, what, around a year ago? Sad to see so many great contenders fall off the road so early on, but happy to see the likes Crimson make it to the restaurant at the end of the universe. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:24
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I almost miss it because i was looking a name like "batle of the prog bands FINAL" ------------- |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:26
Me too! You really should change the name, if it's not too late. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:34
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Oh to decide... Pink Floyd who brought progressive rock music to the mainstream (not an easy task) without too much compromise to mainstream requirements. (The odd single or two...) Or the band that generated so much musical inspiration other bands without really being a household name (ala Beatles, Floyd.) Do Pink Floyd count as space rock, symphonic rock, (operatic rock...?) Weren't KC a symphonic rock band at some obscure stage in their career? |
Posted By: crimhead
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:35
| Crim |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:35
You should change NOTHING! Change is bad. -------------
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Posted By: cesarsc
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 18:58
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Pink Floyd ------------- Still a Newbie in THIS forum.... |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:06
I don't know what I'm going to do when this poll is over. I've spent the past year looking forward to the next installment. Once it's gone, what will there be for me on ProgArchives anymore? -------------
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Posted By: claugroi
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:17
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This is a complete absurd to me. King Crimson is one of the most overrated progressive bands and should never be among the 2 best bands of progressive rock, in my opinion. This place is reserved for Yes and Genesis !
All in all, I go for Pink Floyd here... ------------- Symphonic Prog Master |
Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:24
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Neither. Can't vote; will save it for whichever team is losing later edit: by neither I mean both |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:38
This. The losing one will most likely be Floyd, though. -------------  |
Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:38
I changed it to its normal title.
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Posted By: Triceratopsoil
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:40
well obviously not, who watches anime? |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:41
I thought it was a Red reference |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:42
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While I do like early Pink Floyd, I'm not a fan of later Pink Floyd. With King Crimson, I like all of their eras.
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:43
You don't listen to me at all anymore, do you? -------------
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:45
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:46
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So what's with the color scheme here? It is either Pink or Crimson, both variants of red. It would be interesting to see if this would have turned out differently if Yes won, or if the two symphonic giants were not pitted against one another when they were. Alas, water under the bridge. Neither of these bands are truly in the running for the top spot for me (Yes, Tull, Vangelis would be up there, but that's me). As to my favorite of these two champions, that is hard to say, but I can say that I consider one of them to be the very image of progressiveness (although both are quite innovative). So I must choose the true king over a fella named Floyd. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:47
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^ yeah, that's just you
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Posted By: UndercoverBoy
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:47
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Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 19:49
I miss the trust we used to have in each other.  -------------
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:11
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Pink Floyd is more what to say, refined, they found their sound and exiled in it while King Crimson was sort of the schizoid prog band which did not really found any real base, prog nomads, while Floyd went out to the outer space Crimson went to different dimensions and wormholes, Pink Floyd is like a pasta bolognaise, plain but delicious, while King Crimson is more like a shish kebab it is filled with loads of different vegetables, meat and spices and taste allot of different things, very exiting -------------  
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:27
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I used to like PF much more, but now days i like KC more, but i still love both. ------------- 
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Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:37
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I vote for YES!!!!! ohh wait.... damn!! All Hail The Crimson King!!!!!!! ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:43
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Well, I like four Pink Floyd albums and don't really dislike any of them, I only love one King Crimson album, like two songs of another one, and hate a lot of their production. So, it's obvious, Pink Floyd even when they are not going to win. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Iron Nate
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:47
One kebab with the lot please  |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 20:50
| I'm not sure if this notion has much relevance but which band to date has the most votes? Be funny if KC (who I expect to win) got less votes than others and still managed to be number one on the top 10 hit parade.... |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 21:22
i do! but i didnt got it  ------------- |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 23:17
| Pink Floyd for me, there are much more albums from them I like completley, and much less songs I don't really like from them. However, even if it is very contradictory, I would be rather disapointed with the forum if King Crimson lost this poll... still, I expected this match to be closer. |
Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 23:30
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KIng Crimson only has released two good albums to me, which are LTiA and S&BB, while PF's nearly entire discography is great. So, easy choice. ------------- 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: November 18 2010 at 23:57
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It depends upon what day it is. I like them both a great deal. Which one I play depends upon my mood at the time. Call me an oddball, but I just don't view music as a competition. (At least, not since I was about 14.)
There are artists I like, and artists I don't like -- when I like two, I don't think along the lines of "which one do I like more?" -- at least, not consciously. I just buy CDs from them both.
Plus, Crimson have had so many diverse incarnations that they don't even have one "sound" to think of. (I might say something similar of Floyd -- I find the early, really freaky "acid" stuff to be unlistenable, but love Meddle to Animals. (The Wall just depresses me -- I find it really drags.)
Can't vote without a "both" option -- I prefer both of these fine bands to hundreds of other artists.  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: cyclysm748
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 01:36
What is a pasta bolognaise? Apparently it is plain but delicious, like fresh baked bread.
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Posted By: Pekka
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 02:09
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Gotta give it to Crimso. I'm not extremely fond of the post-70s output of either of them (with the exception of the brilliant Power to Believe) but Crimson was more consistent during the early career. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=42652" rel="nofollow - It's on PA! 
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Posted By: BlindGuard
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 02:17
| Master Fripp! |
Posted By: Bonnek
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 02:20
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The two deserved finalists and both in my top 5 of favorite bands. I love Pink Floyd especially for their early years (68-71), Crimson for their entire career. Just listened to Careful with that Axe and I'll go with the Floyd ! |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 02:33
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God Save The King!!! ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 02:38
Little contest here  : Pink Floyd all the way.------------- 
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Posted By: Follix
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 03:20
| I only love the first album of King Crimson while I love every of Pink Floyd from Atom Heart Mother to Division Bell (Except the Final Cut) |
Posted By: refugee
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 03:57
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One more vote for KC. I love both bands, though.
------------- He say nothing is quite what it seems; I say nothing is nothing (Peter Hammill) |
Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 04:48
Let's crush Pink Floyd!  |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 04:52
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We're now speaking of the top. I want to say that Pink Floyd have contributed to prog's popularity more than everybody else. This is why I vote for them. I mean popularity not only in the "commercial" sense. Bands like Mosly Autumn, RPWL, more or less all the Heavy Prog bands since Porcupine Tree have a debt with Pink Floyd. The nfluence of KC in the prog world, probably because Fripp is too genious to be imited, is limited to the excursions of KC members into other bands: Lake with ELP, Bruford with Yes (and Your Is No Disgrace is more a KC song IMO), Mel Collins with everybody else and Fripp with almost nobody. So two very different bands. Prog world needs them both and more. BUT FOR ME PINK FLOYD IS THE TOP.  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 05:42
   ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 05:51
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PF so easily.
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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:10
Is there any band you you wouldn't vote for when paired up with KC? |
Posted By: Tuonela
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:27
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Crimso all the way
------------- "I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official." - Francis Wolcott |
Posted By: Neue regel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:32
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Rush is out.. So Pink Floyd..here for me.. But..Hm, wait it's 'Best prog band' contest and not just 'best band' in the universe. So I have to go with King Crimson finally as a typical 21st century schizoid man would do. Enjoy your 2nd place PF fanboys. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Neue_regel_" rel="nofollow - Neue Regel's Last.Fm 
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Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:41
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16 more Floydians, please.... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:00
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PINK FLOYD
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:04
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Do people really enjoy Crimson music more than Floyd s ? our is it just more Hip to to say Crimson ? Hmmmmm -------------
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Posted By: TheClosing
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:04
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Pink Floyd are among the all time greats of songwriting. King Crimson on the other hand are not. Ofc, KC will win like I've said all along. Folks around these parts seem to think they invented the lightbulb. |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:05
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15 left to tie... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:07
Yes. However there are people who vote for KC because they are more "important" or more "progressive", which is not OK.  |
Posted By: Neue regel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:10
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First PROG place..will be our Epitaph... if we make it ..we can all sit back and laugh.. but I fear tomorrow I'll be crying P.S I admit I voted KC due to the 'hip..' 60% of the times i would normally vote Floyd ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Neue_regel_" rel="nofollow - Neue Regel's Last.Fm
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Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:49
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FLOYD
They are the defintiion of progressive to me
so is Crimson obviously....
but I like Floyd better :) ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:37
i do it for the hip  ------------- |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:39
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still 11 to tie.... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:44
 ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: Jörgemeister
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:49
like a true prog head you say no to the iconic band that defined prog?  ------------- |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:58
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Of course he does...then when Pink Floyd will lead the poll a true prog head will say no to them... ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: King Manuel
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:04
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I am trying to get famous as a King Crimson Hater! King Crimson bashing (and Porcupine Tree bashing) are my favourite past times, sorry getting of the topic, .... ------------- Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:06
I'm a "hater of Pink Floyd haters" instead...so no problems at all  ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:13
I can't speak for Walter, but I have mentioned in earlier threads my thoughts on this. It really is a truly subjective response on my part--I just somehow have never thought of Pink Floyd as a Prog band. That isn't a criticism of the group; it's a statement of how I perceive and think about the music I hear. I was genuinely surprised a few years ago when I started picking up magazines (such as a Mojo special) that put Floyd on the cover as the best Prog band of all time. Please don't get me wrong, this has nothing to do with like or dislike for me. I've been a longtime fan of Pink Floyd and think they are a simply stunning rock band, one of the best of all time. It's just that somehow my head does not place them in the Prog category. I think it was Logan who made a great response in the earlier thread that the problem may be a distinction between Prog and progressive (however we want to make such distinctions). I do think Pink Floyd has illustrated a progressive career, especially over the stretch of albums you mention, but they have never struck me as a Prog band. But why that is, I still haven't been able to articulate fully. As I say, it's a rather subjective thing for me. Having said all that, I think Floyd's progressive period runs from Pipers to Meddle. The albums that come after are absolutely iconic in the rock canon, but I'm not sure I quite see the Prog or progressive element there. I chose King Crimson because I think they have displayed a much more adventurous spirit throughout their career as a whole. I can think of few bands who have reinvented themselves again and again so constantly and with such astonishing results. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:21
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I don't understand how cutting a word can transform it into two different words. If Pink Floyd are not "prog", are they "ressive" ? ------------- I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution |
Posted By: The Monodrone
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:36
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Interestingly, I believe these are the two most influential bands for Steven Wilson (as stated in some random internet interview). My pick is certainly King Crimson, probably my all-around favorite progressive band.... I'm a Pink Floyd fan, but I don't love them. -------------  
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Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:14
I spelled it wrong but this is the dish
pasta bolognese
 Pink Floyd
shish kebab
 King Crimson -------------
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Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:16
KC but not because they are the 'progressive one' but because Red is my all time favourite music album.  It really comes down to Red versus DSOTM, both incredible bands at the end of the day, so hard to choose.
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Posted By: Atoms
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:23
Floydian reporting in
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Posted By: Hawkwise
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:36
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So is this battle of who is more prog than the Other ? or is it battle of who's music you like to listen to the most ? On the first question i couldn't give a flying Pig on the second which it should be about , Floyd just made better albums Tours and Films . so FLOYD it is -------------
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Posted By: questionsneverknown
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 11:51
Well, for what it's worth, this question has come up again and again throughout the tournament. It's not an unreasonable question to ask. I think if the poll has always asked us, who is your favourite progressive band, or who do you think is the best progressive band, then judging the group by whatever your own criteria for progressiveness isn't in the least bit irrelevant. But if we just want to go with who we like to listen to better, then it's still Crimson for me. ------------- The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough. --Robyn Hitchcock |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:21
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Not sure how progression is measured but PF went from creating a psychedelic classic (regarded as a pop album for some obscure reason... Piper only has 1 chorus on it... that is some sort of progression...) to staging opera (Ca Ira - I know it's just Rog (sic) but he counts) and presenting and inspiring theatre, doing films and soundtracks and concerts. KC annexed symphonic prog, told everyone what to do, how to do it then climbed their own mountain. In a very rough analogy KC are the superdeveloped engine (unseen by many but stunning those who know) while PF are the super developed fuselage and chassis (the blues. classical engine is a quality engine shared by many) who impress virtually all who touch, all who see, all a band could ever be... Or another analogy. KC are the laboratory while PF are the ...zoo...??? Both changed throughout. PF from album to album, KC from sections of albums to sections albums... a bit like Rush in that respect. Frankly you can't go to far wrong with either contender. |
Posted By: SaltyJon
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:22
Poll Question: Which band do you prefer? Has nothing to do with which is "more prog". ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Salty_Jon" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: LateralMe
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:25
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I really hope Crimson wins this one.
------------- A Flower!? |
Posted By: chrijom
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 14:26
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The overated boring drudge against the ultimate progressive rock band of all time what a toughy!
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 15:59
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I'm afraid this is quite an anticlimactic final (for me, anyway)...
I believe if Genesis or Yes were paired up with KC or PF in the final, THAT would've been a bit more interesting...
I really don't know who to vote for...I enjoy both, but I'll vote PF to make it more entertaining ------------- 
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Posted By: Formentera Lady
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 17:02
Lark the Starless votes against Larks and Starless?  .... |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 17:07
That would make a fun post poll poll... if you see what I mean. When KC have won this one, make the next one... ooh, say in a day or two when everyone's forgotten this result and we can enjoy / argue bitterly  about it all again. A kind of post poll remaster / reissue thing. |
Posted By: rogerthat
Date Posted: November 19 2010 at 19:24
Ideally, that still ought NOT to be relevant. I would not call Genesis more progressive than Magma but I do like their music more, and I mean their prog rock albums. |
Posted By: Chela
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 01:13
I believe we had this conversation a few days ago,
and came to the same conclusion
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Posted By: irrelevant
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 01:47
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KANG CRAMSAM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- https://gabebuller.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - New album! http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385" rel="nofollow - http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=7385 |
Posted By: Adams Bolero
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 11:30
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Pink Floyd due to their work up to Dark Side of the Moon. ------------- ''Nobody realizes that some people expend tremendous energy merely to be normal.'' - Albert Camus |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 12:06
What's wrong with after that?  ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 12:53
| He probably doesn't like it. Too bad for him. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 16:57
Indeed we did
 And PFs only behind by 11 so, there is still hope  -------------
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Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: November 20 2010 at 16:59
I am a traitor...but it's all for fun  -------------
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