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Tuonela
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:27 |
Crimso all the way
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"I am a sinner that does not expect forgiveness. But I am not a government official."
- Francis Wolcott
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Neue regel
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:32 |
Rush is out.. So Pink Floyd..here for me..
But..Hm, wait it's 'Best prog band' contest and not just 'best band' in the universe. So I have to go with King Crimson finally as a typical 21st century schizoid man would do. Enjoy your 2nd place PF fanboys. (me included)
Edited by Neue regel - November 19 2010 at 06:34
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 06:41 |
16 more Floydians, please....
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:00 |
PINK FLOYD
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Hawkwise
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:04 |
Do people really enjoy Crimson music more than Floyd s ? our is it just more Hip to to say Crimson ?
Hmmmmm
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TheClosing
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:04 |
Pink Floyd are among the all time greats of songwriting. King Crimson on the other hand are not. Ofc, KC will win like I've said all along. Folks around these parts seem to think they invented the lightbulb.
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:05 |
15 left to tie...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:07 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Do people really enjoy Crimson music more than Floyd s ? our is it just more Hip to to say Crimson ?
Hmmmmm
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Yes. However there are people who vote for KC because they are more "important" or more "progressive", which is not OK.
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Neue regel
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:10 |
First PROG place..will be our Epitaph...
if we make it ..we can all sit back and laugh.. but I fear tomorrow I'll be crying
P.S I admit I voted KC due to the 'hip..' 60% of the times i would normally vote Floyd
Edited by Neue regel - November 19 2010 at 07:12
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digdug
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 07:49 |
FLOYD
They are the defintiion of progressive to me
so is Crimson obviously....
but I like Floyd better :)
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Prog On!
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:37 |
Hawkwise wrote:
Do people really enjoy Crimson music more than Floyd s ? our is it just more Hip to to say Crimson ?
Hmmmmm
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i do it for the hip
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:39 |
still 11 to tie....
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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King Manuel
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:44 |
James McProgger wrote:
Hawkwise wrote:
Do people really enjoy Crimson music more than Floyd s ? our is it just more Hip to to say Crimson ?
Hmmmmm
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i do it for the hip |
like a true prog head I go against the masses and say No to KC!
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Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus
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Jörgemeister
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:49 |
like a true prog head you say no to the iconic band that defined prog?
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I Could have bought a Third World country with the riches that I've spent
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 09:58 |
Of course he does...then when Pink Floyd will lead the poll a true prog head will say no to them...
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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King Manuel
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:04 |
I am trying to get famous as a King Crimson Hater! King Crimson bashing (and Porcupine Tree bashing) are my favourite past times, sorry getting of the topic, ....
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Don't Bore Us, Get To The Chorus
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:06 |
King Manuel wrote:
I am trying to get famous as a King Crimson Hater! King Crimson bashing (and Porcupine Tree bashing) are my favourite past times, sorry getting of the topic, .... |
I'm a "hater of Pink Floyd haters" instead...so no problems at all
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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questionsneverknown
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:13 |
UndercoverBoy wrote:
questionsneverknown wrote:
WalterDigsTunes wrote:
The progressive one.
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Exactly. | Sorry if you've already explained this in a previous thread, but can you tell me why Pink Floyd isn't progressive? Personally, when I listen to albums like A Saucerful of Secrets, Ummagumma, Atom Heart Mother and Meddle I can't see how you can call them anything but. Even the "commercial" albums still have undeniable progressive tendencies. |
I can't speak for Walter, but I have mentioned in earlier threads my thoughts on this. It really is a truly subjective response on my part--I just somehow have never thought of Pink Floyd as a Prog band. That isn't a criticism of the group; it's a statement of how I perceive and think about the music I hear. I was genuinely surprised a few years ago when I started picking up magazines (such as a Mojo special) that put Floyd on the cover as the best Prog band of all time.
Please don't get me wrong, this has nothing to do with like or dislike for me. I've been a longtime fan of Pink Floyd and think they are a simply stunning rock band, one of the best of all time. It's just that somehow my head does not place them in the Prog category.
I think it was Logan who made a great response in the earlier thread that the problem may be a distinction between Prog and progressive (however we want to make such distinctions). I do think Pink Floyd has illustrated a progressive career, especially over the stretch of albums you mention, but they have never struck me as a Prog band. But why that is, I still haven't been able to articulate fully. As I say, it's a rather subjective thing for me.
Having said all that, I think Floyd's progressive period runs from Pipers to Meddle. The albums that come after are absolutely iconic in the rock canon, but I'm not sure I quite see the Prog or progressive element there. I chose King Crimson because I think they have displayed a much more adventurous spirit throughout their career as a whole. I can think of few bands who have reinvented themselves again and again so constantly and with such astonishing results.
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The damage that we do is just so powerfully strong we call it love
The damage that we do just goes on and on and on but not long enough.
--Robyn Hitchcock
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octopus-4
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:21 |
I don't understand how cutting a word can transform it into two different words. If Pink Floyd are not "prog", are they "ressive" ?
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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The Monodrone
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Posted: November 19 2010 at 10:36 |
Interestingly, I believe these are the two most influential bands for Steven Wilson (as stated in some random internet interview).
My pick is certainly King Crimson, probably my all-around favorite progressive band.... I'm a Pink Floyd fan, but I don't love them.
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