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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2010 at 21:41

Not sure what ever happened to this thread, but I'm cleaning up some old posts and suggestions and came across this one.  Chimera was considered a while back by the Prog Folk team and rejected.  You might want to suggest them to the Pysch team.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 02:07
Should I open a new thread or just ask the  psych team?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 08 2010 at 05:36
No, I'll post them a link to this thread and ask for an evaluation. Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 18 2010 at 22:25
Would you octopus-4 be intersted of doing bio & searching album information to Chimera? Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 01:01
Fine for me.Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 19 2010 at 16:25
This is a first draft of their bio. I'm planning to mail Francesca Garnett as her mail address is written on the internal sleeve of the album. Comments are welcome.

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at the end of 1963 Lisa Bankoff (piano) and Francesca Garnett (vocals), two young girls who shared a passion for the fab four started writing songs. They were the first nucleus of Chimera.
After having a tape refused by EMI in 1965, they went to Rome where both their mothers were living. There they recorded a tape of own songs but it remained into a cassette until they came back to UK in 1967.
It was in Rome, in May 1968, that they had the opportunity to approach Nick Mason while the Pink Floyd were taking part to a festival.
Back to UK, Nick Mason offered to become their manager with David Gilmour as producer.

With Nick Mason as manager the two girls signed off a contract with Morgan and assembled a band including Ian Milne on keyboards and two unknown musicians.
The band didn't last long so they had to hire the instrumentist through melody maker.
After some changes in the lineup, when they were recording the album, the label closed down.
Nick Mason tried a deal with Atlantic, but the band rapidly disbanded also because Lisa had a bad accident in the USA and spent about two years on a wheelchair.
Atlantic declined its interest, then later Bob Weston joined the Fleetwood Mac.

There was a brief reunion in 1975 but nothing more happened until 1980 when ten survived tracks were discovered in the Morgan's archives during a project for reissues.
The tape was remastered from a cassette copy, but it remained in the archives only to be rediscovered in 2001, year of the final release of their album.

A couple of tracks feature Nick Mason and Rick Wright.
The album was released 32 years after being recorded. All their music, except those 10 tracks is lost forever.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 20 2010 at 02:36
well done up to now, octopus Smile .. let's wait for Francesca's answer anyhow ...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 04:32
Originally posted by Rivertree Rivertree wrote:

well done up to now, octopus Smile .. let's wait for Francesca's answer anyhow ...

I've mailed her last Friday. The address is still valid, but I don't know if she's checking it after about 10 years since the album's release. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 04:44
In the meantime I've found on youtube another release of the album which includes 9 additional tracks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20V9w0XimOE I didn't hear this very folky track before.

Francesca has published her bio, but it's not on Amazon and the only place where I've found it is the Australian national library

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 05:13
I've just found this sad new....

Lisa is dead now - sadly. She was a friend whom I lost touch with in the late 70's. She played me the music then, but said that Nick Mason had the rights, and didn't want to release it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 08:03
This is the new version of the bio. I think I have found all the relevant information.

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It all started around 1963 when two Beatles groupies, Lisa Bankoff (piano) and Francesca Garnett (vocals) decided to start writing their own songs.

After having a tape refused by EMI in 1965, they went to Rome where both their mothers were living. There they recorded a tape of own songs but it remained into a cassette until they came back to UK in 1967.

It was in Rome, in May 1968, that they had the opportunity to approach Nick Mason while the Pink Floyd were taking part to a festival.
Back to UK, Nick Mason offered to become their manager with David Gilmour as producer.

With Nick Mason as manager the two girls signed off a contract with Blue Morgan and assembled a band including Ian Milne on keyboards and two unknown musicians.
The band didn't last long so they had to hire the instrumentist through melody maker.
After some changes in the lineup, when they were recording the album, the label closed down.
Nick Mason tried a deal with Atlantic, but the band rapidly disbanded.

Lisa Bankoff wrote: "The project fell to pieces mainly because I had a car accident shortly after the recordings were finished and couldn't walk for a couple of years. Our producer was called Mal Luker."

Almost all of those musicians appear in the album lineup: MAL LUKER (The Smoke) who is currently a successful producer in films industry (OST of Pirates of Caribbean), the bassist NICK SOUTH (Alexis Korner), the guitarist BOB WESTON, the drummer Roy Temro and the appearance of NICK MASON and RICK WRIGHT.   

Atlantic declined its interest, then later Bob Weston joined the Fleetwood Mac.

There was a brief reunion in 1975 but nothing more happened until 1980 when ten survived tracks were discovered in the Morgan's archives during a project for reissues.
The tape was remastered from a cassette copy, but it remained in the archives only to be rediscovered in 2001, year of the final release of their album.

A couple of tracks feature Nick Mason and Rick Wright.
The album was released 32 years after being recorded. All their music, except those 10 tracks seemed lost forever, but 9 more tracks have been resumed somewhere and included in a later edition of the album. It's not official, but it looks like one of the reasons why the tracks remained unreleased was that Nick Mason was owning the rights and didn't allow the material to be published. This is what a Lisa's friend says.

FRANCESCA and LISA wrote a book about their life in London during the late '60s / early '70s called "Making It! Famous Names and Silly Girls". A copy is in the Australian National Library (Lisa moved to Perth).

ROY TEMRO and LISA BANKOFF are now dead (RIP). 

The music of Chimera is influenced by the British psychedelia of late 60s with folky elements mainly in the high-pitch voices and the use of acoustic guitars. With a bit more luck, they could have been predecessors to bands like Fairport Convention. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 23 2010 at 08:24
^ Sad to hear the news. Unhappy The music she created lives though with this record.
 
I can assist with the inclusion technically if you won't do it with some other collabs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 25 2010 at 04:33
Good work, Oct. Clap
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