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Posted: August 17 2010 at 14:00

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 13:26

Snow Dog wrote:

Johnnytuba wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

ELP - In The Hot Seat
Genesis - Calling All Stations
Dream Theater - When Dream and day Unite
Yes - Union
Camel - Stationary Traveller -
Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO He
Steve Hackett - Cured
Spock's Beard - Octane
Flower Kings - Rainmaker
Transatlantic - The Whirlwind

Yikes! I am a huge VDGG fan and through my experiences, you either love it or hate it. One of my co-workers is a big time prog fan but he cannot get into VDGG, I have tried time and again...I guess its doesn't click with everyone....me on the other hand, I cannot stand Dream Theatre.....

I must stress that Star

is pretty good. And bearing that in mind I may have to deduct 1 Star

from ELP

Personally I'd deduct 2

, but whatever's fine with you.

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 13:10

Johnnytuba wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

ELP - In The Hot Seat
Genesis - Calling All Stations
Dream Theater - When Dream and day Unite
Yes - Union
Camel - Stationary Traveller -
Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO He
Steve Hackett - Cured
Spock's Beard - Octane
Flower Kings - Rainmaker
Transatlantic - The Whirlwind

I must stress that Star

is pretty good. And bearing that in mind I may have to deduct 1 Star

from ELP

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 13:02

Snow Dog wrote:

ELP - In The Hot Seat
Genesis - Calling All Stations
Dream Theater - When Dream and day Unite
Yes - Union
Camel - Stationary Traveller -
Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO He
Steve Hackett - Cured
Spock's Beard - Octane
Flower Kings - Rainmaker
Transatlantic - The Whirlwind

"The things that we're concealing, will never let us grow.
Time will do its healing, you've got to let it go.

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 12:58

Triceratopsoil wrote:

Logan wrote:

kole wrote:

The second Comus album.

Fair enough since they only had two albums, and I thought of mentioning that too, but I do want to note that though it has a bad reputation, I still like that album. I still think it's good to very good, and if it wasn't a band that had come out with an album as great as First Utterance, it would be considered more highly. Underrated.

exactly

Their 3rd album should be out this year, by the way

Love your avatar!

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 12:38

Anthony H. wrote:

Originally posted by DisgruntledPorcupine

DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:

Tarquin Underspoon wrote:

In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos"

No way. One of their best IMHO. I'm probably the only one on this whole forum who thinks that, but I love it.

It's not one of their best, but it's an amazing album, either way. I don't understand the hate for it.

I don't understand the hate either. I find it gives you a taste of all the things Dream Theater are capable of. Also, what some call w**kery is here on this album, but when it's there it is a lot more controlled and musical rather than continuous shredding.

The only fault I find are some cringeworthy lyrics.

Edited by DisgruntledPorcupine - August 17 2010 at 12:38

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 12:33

boo boo wrote:

I like Waters and his vocals a lot, but The Final Cut is pretty boring, the best tracks are the ones left over from The Wall, had they been included on that album, they would have been considered filler.

That sums up the album pretty well, all the newer tracks are completely forgettable.

And I don't know what people are smoking when they say it's better than The Wall, I suspect that they're trying a little too hard to be different.

IMO The Wall is inconistent. The 1st disc blows, and the 2nd is amazing. The Final Cut is way more consistent and overall I do think it is better than The Wall.

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 12:30

Weirdamigo wrote:

lensag wrote:

A Momentary Lapse of Reason!

I always loved AMLoR for some reason.

The worst album in progressive rock must be The Final Cut!

The Final Cut is amazing...

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 12:13

Love your humor. Might I suggest:

Evolver wrote:

King Crimson - Three Of A Perfect Pair (you do the math)

Brian Eno - Music For Airports (so, your flight's on time, there are no children on board, and the cocktails are free?)

Return To Forever - Musicmagic (pleasedisappear)

Edited by Ronnie Pilgrim - August 17 2010 at 12:20

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 06:06

oh and the someone was TGM: Orb!

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And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 06:02

That sums up the album pretty well, all the newer tracks are completely forgettable.

And I don't know what people are smoking when they say it's better than The Wall, I suspect that they're trying a little too hard to be different.

1st - i only smoke cigars

2nd - I said: "at least as good as the wall"

3rd - i´m totaaly secure of my musical tastes and opinions and i am not a teen with a urge to be different.

4th - that said. I think that the final cut is a good album and as a whole it works probably better than the wall. the wall is full of fillers as someone said and i agree. However the wall has better songs, some of the best of PF (like Confortably Numb or Hey You).

"when routine bites hard and ambitions are low,
and resentment rides high but emotions won´t grow
And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 05:44

Final Cut is a piece of emotional writing dominated completely by Waters. Like The Wall, except it doesn't stop making any kind of sense half-way through and doesn't have massive amounts of filler.

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 05:39

I like Waters and his vocals a lot, but The Final Cut is pretty boring, the best tracks are the ones left over from The Wall, had they been included on that album, they would have been considered filler.

That sums up the album pretty well, all the newer tracks are completely forgettable.

And I don't know what people are smoking when they say it's better than The Wall, I suspect that they're trying a little too hard to be different.

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 05:27

Weirdamigo wrote:

lensag wrote:

A Momentary Lapse of Reason!

I always loved AMLoR for some reason.

The worst album in progressive rock must be The Final Cut!

No no no no no... i was answering to "worse album by a great prog band", not the worse in progressive rock....

But i totally disagree with you. The final cut is actually a pretty good album - in my opinion it is at least as good as "the wall" and way better than AMLoR. The only song i like is "sorrow" and i have to be in a good day .. I can´t listen to the first cds of Delicate sound of thunder and Prism because of it...

And it is not any preference that i have for Waters because i really like The Division Bell (and waters singing sometimes is arghhhhhhhhh)

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and resentment rides high but emotions won´t grow
And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 04:42

lensag wrote:

A Momentary Lapse of Reason!

I always loved AMLoR for some reason.

The worst album in progressive rock must be The Final Cut!

Edited by Weirdamigo - August 17 2010 at 04:43

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Posted: August 17 2010 at 03:37

A Momentary Lapse of Reason!

"when routine bites hard and ambitions are low,
and resentment rides high but emotions won´t grow
And we´re changing our ways, taking different roads..
Then love, love will tear us apart again.."

DAVE M

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