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boo boo 
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 Posted: August 16 2010 at 18:30 |
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I like this album, don't care what anyone says.
It's definitely better than their debut and their last 3 albums, and also ATTWT. I'd say it's the weakest of their albums that I like, but I do like it. Who Dunnit? is the only bad track IMO.
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At first I didn't read that little part above, because I was about to say "WTF MAN WTF?". But I actually consider this one of their best albums.
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 17:39 |
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May have to change my mind over that one, I listened to Pioneers over C the other day and really enjoyed it. Don't like Killer though. |
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Anthony H.
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:51 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos" |
No way. One of their best IMHO. I'm probably the only one on this whole forum who thinks that, but I love it.
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It's not one of their best, but it's an amazing album, either way. I don't understand the hate for it.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:35 |
May have to change my mind over that one, I listened to Pioneers over C the other day and really enjoyed it. Don't like Killer though.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 16:31 |
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retrorocker
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Posted: August 16 2010 at 15:11 |
The studio part of Ummagumma has got to be the worst, or at least most bewilderingly dissapointing, thing by Pink Floyd, and that was the first album that came to mind.
Tormato is also very bad for a band who had just released Going for the One the previous year, although personally I like "Future TImes/Rejoice" and "Don't Kill the Whale", the album as a whole pales in the shadows of what came before it.
As for King Crimson, there were only two or three tracks on each of Beat and ToaPP that I liked, so I downloaded them and abandoned the rest. I haven't heard CoL yet but apparantly it's not good either. I like THRAK and TPtB very much.
As for Genesis, it goes without saying that everything after Hackett left was, ahem, "less than perfect". :P
One that I should mention is the VdG album "The Quiet Zone/A Pleasure Dome", or whatever it's called, that is such a huge sore thumb odd-one-out album I don't know if I'll ever be able to listen to it objectively. I do love the tracks "Cats Eye/Yellow Fever" and "Lizard Play" though, so maybe, one day...
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 12:32 |
Yeah...thats probably missing a a star....will correct!
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 12:27 |
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Tormato is astonishingly bad given the line-up that recorded it.
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 12:16 |
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 10:52 |
ELP - In The Hot Seat (because of this album)
Yes - Open Your Eyes (for this?)
Frank Zappa - Cruisin' With Ruben & The Jets (and crashing into a tree)
King Crimson - Three Of A Perfect Pair ('nuff said)
Jethro Tull - Under Wraps (keep it that way)
Brian Eno - Music For Airports (and to cure insomnia)
The Mahavishnu Orchestra - Inner Worlds (don't let them out)
Pink Floyd - The Final Cut (putting salt in the wound)
Spock's Beard - Octane (low octane)
Return To Forever - Musicmagic (I don't have a joke for this one)
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VanVanVan
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 10:51 |
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"The meaning of life is to give life meaning."-Arjen Lucassen
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AerosolKid74
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 09:43 |
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While Systematic Chaos isn't a great album I don't quite think It's worthy of this thread seeing as a third of it goes to In The Presence of Enemies which in my opinion is one of the best things Dream Theater have ever written.
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Prog Rock: Founded on a fundamental misunderstanding of the word virtuoso.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 06:44 |
- ELP - In The Hot Seat
 - Genesis - Calling All Stations
- Dream Theater - When Dream and day Unite
- Yes - Union
- Camel - Stationary Traveller -
- Van Der Graaf Generator - H TO He
- Steve Hackett - Cured
- Spock's Beard - Octane
- Flower Kings - Rainmaker
- Transatlantic - The Whirlwind
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Tony R
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 06:28 |
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I have a relative who did not know that Prog Rock exists (until I told him that Yes were one of the most famous Prog bands) yet Big Generator is one of his favourite albums. He's very casual about music and oddly, despite the album genuinely being one if his favourites, he has no interest in delving into their catalogue. The only other two Yes tracks he has heard are Don't Kill The Whale and Owner Of A Lonely Heart. I offered to do him a Yes mix-tape ( this was back in the 80s) and he declined.
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kole
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 05:00 |
Logan wrote:
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The second Comus album.
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Fair enough since they only had two albums, and I thought of mentioning that too, but I do want to note that though it has a bad reputation, I still like that album. I still think it's good to very good, and if it wasn't a band that had come out with an album as great as First Utterance, it would be considered more highly. Underrated.
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I actually kinda agree with you. But still, compared to the first album, it is weak. But yeah, I can actually enjoy it. And can't wait for their third one!
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AtomicCrimsonRush
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 04:57 |
Ah here we go with some negativity....
yes, great prog bands have made some bad albums and here they are
ELP
GENESIS
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Then there are albums that are the worst but are still pretty good, just the worst by the particular bands...like
KING CRIMSON
VDGG
Pink Floyd
Hawkwind... ?
Marillion.... ?
Dream Theater... ?
Camel ...?
Caravan... ?
you fill the blanks
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richardh
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Posted: August 15 2010 at 02:33 |
Abacab would be my choice although more because of the sudden change of direction rather than it being that bad.One or two tracks are salvagable (Dodo and the title track)
Love Beach is listenable imo.(just need to hide your eyes from the cover)
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rogerthat
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 23:53 |
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I don't know if I can quite call them a GREAT prog band, but few are worse than Renaissance's Timeline, absolutely terrible album. Then again, I haven't heard Calling All Stations, maybe it's worse still. Love Beach, barring the cover, was not all that bad. Civilian too, while disappointing coming from a band like Gentle Giant, wasn't too bad and was quite in keeping with the rock music of the late 70s/early 80s. If I include bands on PA in general, then St Anger wins comfortably, though.
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DisgruntledPorcupine
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 22:31 |
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos" |
No way. One of their best IMHO. I'm probably the only one on this whole forum who thinks that, but I love it.
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Even though we may disagree about that album, I think we can both agree that your new avatar is most amusing. |
 Yes we can. Thanks. 
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Tarquin Underspoon
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 22:03 |
DisgruntledPorcupine wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos" |
No way. One of their best IMHO. I'm probably the only one on this whole forum who thinks that, but I love it.
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Even though we may disagree about that album, I think we can both agree that your new avatar is most amusing.
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