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Topic: Worst Album by a Great Prog Band Posted: August 14 2010 at 15:46
Unfortunately I was not around in the 70's to experience first hand all of my favorite bands but in a way it makes me glad I didn't then have to put up with the crap they produced later in their career a few examples that spring to mind Yes - Owner of a Lonely Heart and Rhythm of Love, Genesis - Invisible Touch and I Can't Dance but why don't you give me a few more examples and let the hate flow.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 17:38
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos
I really don't think it was that bad:
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1
2. Forsaken
3. Constant Motion
4. The Dark Eternal Night
5. Repentance
6. Prophets of War
7. The Ministry of Lost Souls
8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 18:02
DreamInSong wrote:
Tarquin Underspoon wrote:
In 20 years, many of us may be saying "Dream Theater: Systematic Chaos
I really don't think it was that bad:
1. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 1 2. Forsaken 3. Constant Motion 4. The Dark Eternal Night 5. Repentance 6. Prophets of War 7. The Ministry of Lost Souls 8. In The Presence of Enemies Pt. 2
Averaging about three stars
You know, I thought the same thing when it came out. But after a few years of listening, I can honestly say it gets weaker each time I hear it. It's happening with their newest album, too, for me.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 19:11
Don't really understand these kinds of threads although I can understand the humor I guess. I always use the site to find great new music and whatnot...you can pretty much find all of these 'worst albums' by going to the band pages and seeing the lower ratings and negative reviews. To me the combination of the two lends me to look elsewhere
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 19:23
kole wrote:
The second Comus album.
Fair enough since they only had two albums, and I thought of mentioning that too, but I do want to note that though it has a bad reputation, I still like that album. I still think it's good to very good, and if it wasn't a band that had come out with an album as great as First Utterance, it would be considered more highly. Underrated.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 19:39
There are many weak albums by my favourite bands. But I bought ABACAB by Genesis, and I found absolutley nothing interesting in it. Nothing particularly bad (except for Who Dunnit which is atrocious), but nothing interesting either. Other post Hacket albums have some songs I really like. And St Anger by Metallica is really terrible.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 19:49
mr.cub wrote:
Don't really understand these kinds of threads although I can understand the humor I guess. I always use the site to find great new music and whatnot...you can pretty much find all of these 'worst albums' by going to the band pages and seeing the lower ratings and negative reviews. To me the combination of the two lends me to look elsewhere
The nice thing about these topics, though, is that you can find people's choices all in one place (instead of scouring all of the band pages -- though of course a great many applicable ones will be missed here since there will be limited response. A good many people, like me, don't usually like to rate albums so I could think of many poor, applicable ones that are completely unrated). Well, I should say that you could find them all in one place except that we have so many threads on the same topic. And people have different opinions on the worth of the album anyway, which can give some good discussion. I can say that Merci is Magma's worst studio album, but I still think it's really good on the whole, and a worthwhile album in my collection. You can see what I said about Comus' second album. I think it's good, but unlike Magma, of course, Comus didn't release much (the bonus tracks on Song to Comus are mostly superb I think, by the way). There are low rated albums at PA that I think excellent, and high-rated albums that I find poor. There are different ways to approach the topic, and it can generate some interesting discussion, I think. I've known people to re-consider music that they assumed bad, or didn't give a chance to, thanks to such discussion before.
And maybe some people will think of some poor albums by good so-called prog bands that aren't even in the archives yet. The archives are hardly complete. Well, that might lead to discovering the good albums. It is possible to discover good material after becoming intrigued by trainwrecks.
Plus, these topics are fun for some of us. Of course it's been done many times. There are also plenty of appreciation threads, which is helpful, of course, because one may have never even heard of the band or album. But one could also say that "you can pretty much find all of these 'best albums' by going to the band
pages and seeing the higher ratings and positive reviews." That often wouldn't be the case for me, but as a general rule.... Certainly more-so if they are raters that have similar tastes to mine.
I like a little negativity. All sweetness is sappy. It may not be a very useful topic, but I find it an enjoyable topic. To each his or her own.
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 20:03
Logan wrote:
kole wrote:
The second Comus album.
Fair enough since they only had two albums, and I thought of mentioning that too, but I do want to note that though it has a bad reputation, I still like that album. I still think it's good to very good, and if it wasn't a band that had come out with an album as great as First Utterance, it would be considered more highly. Underrated.
exactly
Their 3rd album should be out this year, by the way
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Posted: August 14 2010 at 20:11
Triceratopsoil wrote:
Logan wrote:
kole wrote:
The second Comus album.
Fair enough since they only had two albums, and I thought of mentioning that too, but I do want to note that though it has a bad reputation, I still like that album. I still think it's good to very good, and if it wasn't a band that had come out with an album as great as First Utterance, it would be considered more highly. Underrated.
exactly
Their 3rd album should be out this year, by the way
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