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Conor Fynes
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Topic: Define A PA SubGenre In One Word Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:01 |
Heres a little game; try to define a subgenre of PA (Symphonic Prog/Eclectic Prog etc) using a single term or word.
I'll do a few first...
Zeuhl: Magma
Eclectic: Miscellaneous
Prog Metal: Dream Theater
Tech/Extreme Prog Metal: Growls
Avant: Weird
Prog Folk: Acoustic
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Queen By-Tor
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:03 |
Heavy Prog: Heavy Eclectic Prog: Eclectic side note - I didn't know that "Dream Theater" was one word
Edited by King By-Tor - August 11 2010 at 03:04
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Conor Fynes
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 03:04 |
Touche.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:11 |
This thread has a dubious Just For Fun feel to it
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:29 |
Symphonic - Symphonic Space - Spacey Prog Metal - Metaloprog Zheul - What'll? Canterbury - Kent Electronic - A Gas Neo - Keanu Italian - Symphonico Krautrock - Tommyrot
Edited by Snow Dog - August 11 2010 at 11:55
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CPicard
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 06:37 |
Symphonic : Classic Folk : Dubious Zeuhl : Swindle Tech Extreme Metal : Brainstorming R.I.O. : Cerebral Neo-Prog : Outofvogue Space/Psychaedelic : Dusty Indo-Prog : Britishy (this one is made up) Electronic : Easy Prog Metal : Short Knight Subgenre Not Appearing In This Database : Coming
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:00 |
Prog Metal: Illiteracy
(I have yet to hear any prog metal with lyrics of a good calibre. I sort of hope to be disproved. And Opeth don't count, because a mass of randomly selected dark imagery is not good writing. It fits the music, but it's not good writing... Arcturus don't count because writing in an educated way about dumb things is still writing about dumb things)
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The Truth
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 10:57 |
^ Agree on prog metal. It is certainly my least favorite prog genre, and that shows alot because I listen to quite a bit of it
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Vompatti
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 11:39 |
RIO/Avant - LOLWUT?
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Anthony H.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 11:54 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Prog Metal: Illiteracy
(I have yet to hear any prog metal with lyrics of a good calibre. I sort of hope to be disproved. And Opeth don't count, because a mass of randomly selected dark imagery is not good writing. It fits the music, but it's not good writing... Arcturus don't count because writing in an educated way about dumb things is still writing about dumb things)
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Tell me that the lyrics to Dream Theater's "A Change of Seasons" (written by Mike Portnoy) aren't f**king brilliant. Granted, many DT songs have weak lyrics; but "Seasons" certainly doesn't.
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 14:27 |
Splunge, for everything.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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kole
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 16:01 |
Vompatti wrote:
RIO/Avant - LOLWUT?
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Klogg
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:12 |
Symphonic-Keyboard Neo-Gay Heavy prog- Heavy >.<" Ecletic prog- Ecletic >.<"[2] RIO/Avant- Psych/Space-Drugs Krautrock-drugs[2] Zeuhl-Aliens RPI-Romantic Folk-Flute Prog Death Metal- Canterbury-Soft Crossover-Pop....... and Gay[2] Post-Rock - Slowwwwwwwwwlyyyyyy
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:13 |
^ good ones
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 18:18 |
Anthony H. wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
Prog Metal: Illiteracy
(I have yet to hear any prog metal with lyrics of a good calibre. I sort of hope to be disproved. And Opeth don't count, because a mass of randomly selected dark imagery is not good writing. It fits the music, but it's not good writing... Arcturus don't count because writing in an educated way about dumb things is still writing about dumb things)
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Tell me that the lyrics to Dream Theater's "A Change of Seasons" (written by Mike Portnoy) aren't f**king brilliant. Granted, many DT songs have weak lyrics; but "Seasons" certainly doesn't.
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Hm. I've just read them, and I'll reserve judgment until I've heard the music. 'f**king brilliant' aren't the words I'd use at the moment.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:24 |
Klogg wrote:
Neo-Gay
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WTF?
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JLocke
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:53 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Prog Metal: Illiteracy
(I have yet to hear any prog metal with lyrics of a good calibre. I sort of hope to be disproved. And Opeth don't count, because a mass of randomly selected dark imagery is not good writing. It fits the music, but it's not good writing... Arcturus don't count because writing in an educated way about dumb things is still writing about dumb things)
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He seems alone and silent thoughts remain without an answer Afraid and uninvited he slowly drifts away
Moved by desire and fear Breaking delicate wings
Lifting shadows off a dream once broken. She can turn a drop of water into an ocean.
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There was no time for pain No energy for anger The sightlessness of hatred slips away Walking through winter streets alone He stops and takes a breath With confidence and self control
I look at the world and see no understanding I'm waiting to find some sense of strength I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to show me understanding
I need to live life Like some people never will So find me kindness Find me beauty Find me truth When temptation brings me to my knees And I lay here drained of strength Show me kindness Show me beauty Show me truth
The ways that your heart sounds makes all the difference It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel The way that your heart beats makes all the difference In learning to live Here before me is my soul I'm learning to live I won't give up Till I've no more to give
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Those are snippets from two Dream Theater songs. If you say that's not good songwriting, I would love to see your lyrical attempts.
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JLocke
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 19:56 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Klogg wrote:
Neo-Gay
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WTF? |
Looks like a hillbilly from the '90s somehow landed in here. Perhaps someone with patience should educate the poor lad?
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Anthony H.
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 20:06 |
JLocke wrote:
TGM: Orb wrote:
Prog Metal: Illiteracy
(I have yet to hear any prog metal with lyrics of a good calibre. I sort of hope to be disproved. And Opeth don't count, because a mass of randomly selected dark imagery is not good writing. It fits the music, but it's not good writing... Arcturus don't count because writing in an educated way about dumb things is still writing about dumb things)
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He seems alone and silent thoughts remain without an answer Afraid and uninvited he slowly drifts away
Moved by desire and fear Breaking delicate wings
Lifting shadows off a dream once broken. She can turn a drop of water into an ocean.
----
There was no time for pain No energy for anger The sightlessness of hatred slips away Walking through winter streets alone He stops and takes a breath With confidence and self control
I look at the world and see no understanding I'm waiting to find some sense of strength I'm begging you from the bottom of my heart to show me understanding
I need to live life Like some people never will So find me kindness Find me beauty Find me truth When temptation brings me to my knees And I lay here drained of strength Show me kindness Show me beauty Show me truth
The ways that your heart sounds makes all the difference It's what decides if you'll endure the pain that we all feel The way that your heart beats makes all the difference In learning to live Here before me is my soul I'm learning to live I won't give up Till I've no more to give
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Those are snippets from two Dream Theater songs. If you say that's not good songwriting, I would love to see your lyrical attempts. |
Both Myung-penned tunes. He's a fantastic lyricist; I wish they would let him write more lyrics. He also wrote the lyrics to "Trial of Tears."
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Triceratopsoil
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Posted: August 11 2010 at 20:06 |
zeuhl: Life Krautrock: Damo crossover: poop
and I think I'll second klogg's choice for Neo
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