The Arrogant Proggie

Do you agree/disagree?  Any life stories about having rehabilitated from being a prog snob?  Any justifications for being more of a prog snob?   

ferush wrote: Prog = Music + Innovation - Noise; As simple like this. Prog pop doesn't exist; high music is prog no matter the style.

Prog = Music + Innovation - Noise; As simple like this. Prog pop doesn't exist; high music is prog no matter the style.

ALBANO Vs MJ:

octopus-4 wrote: 8) Rappers who speak on progressive bases: I heard horrible things done to Comfortably Numb, and to Mother Russia. I'm angry when I think that those rappers probably haven't ever heard anything about Renaissance and don't know what's the music they are talking on.

Astrapto wrote: Rocktopus wrote: That would work if you are a robot. <font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="1">[while holding your nose] Beep! "This music is catchy, more popular and has a good beat "    Surprisingly enough, if you'll unplug the robotic nose you'll find a normal person, describing why they like certain music, rather than just proclaiming it "good." Popular art, including music, is effective in appealing to the public. That may or may not portend musical ability. People like music because it appeals to their emotions, intellect, sense of fashion, sense of fellowship, memories....and so many other facets of a human. No music is inherently "better," i.e. "more artistically valid" because there is no way at all to quantify such a distinction. What does "better" mean? Faster, slower, more aggressive, more intellectual, exceling withing the confines of musical theory, soaring outside those boundaries, hobbling without them? Does "good" music facilitate laughing, dancing, cringing, rejoicing, lamenting, fuming, tripping, or escaping? Are there really any upper or lower limits on complexity, prerequisite to artistic validity? People like different music because we're different than each other. No one can completely understand. It's subjective. Don't make the close-minded mistake of proclaiming the music that appeals to your person "good music" and declare the rest "bad music." As long as it was created as art, I will accept it as art. That means that music designed purely for money is effective when it's popular, but not intended to be art. Don't take me as a liberal hippie or something, some unfair stereotype entrenched in toleration and relativity. Don't discount the message if there is no reason.

Rocktopus wrote: That would work if you are a robot. <font face="Courier New, Courier, mono" size="1">[while holding your nose] Beep! "This music is catchy, more popular and has a good beat "

Surprisingly enough, if you'll unplug the robotic nose you'll find a normal person, describing why they like certain music, rather than just proclaiming it "good."
Popular art, including music, is effective in appealing to the public. That may or may not portend musical ability.
People like music because it appeals to their emotions, intellect, sense of fashion, sense of fellowship, memories....and so many other facets of a human.
No music is inherently "better," i.e. "more artistically valid" because there is no way at all to quantify such a distinction. What does "better" mean? Faster, slower, more aggressive, more intellectual, exceling withing
the confines of musical theory, soaring outside those boundaries, hobbling without them? Does "good" music facilitate laughing, dancing, cringing, rejoicing, lamenting, fuming, tripping, or escaping? Are there really any upper or lower limits on complexity, prerequisite to artistic validity?
People like different music because we're different than each other. No one can completely understand. It's subjective.
Don't make the close-minded mistake of proclaiming the music that appeals to your person "good music" and declare the rest "bad music." As long as it was created as art, I will accept it as art. That means that music designed purely for money is effective when it's popular, but not intended to be art.
Don't take me as a liberal hippie or something, some unfair stereotype entrenched in toleration and relativity.
Don't discount the message if there is no reason.

I hope this is not related to my replies. I never wrote an equation like that. I like reggae that's dancing music and I don't think it's stupid.

I'd like to stop this polemic, as we are monopolizing the post and it may be interesting to see other's comments.

Hey, too much things to reply to. Let's try a quick reply...