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Poll Question: If Katatonia were on Prog Archives, which sub-genre would you suggest?
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59 [36.88%]
7 [4.38%]
14 [8.75%]
27 [16.88%]
16 [10.00%]
37 [23.13%]
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    Posted: March 03 2010 at 08:33
I do like Katatonia and believe they should be included on Prog Archives - My own choice of sub-genre would be Progressive Metal.
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http://katatonia.com/ and/or http://www.myspace.com/katatonia if you need to check them out!
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Good poll. I've been a huge Kataonia fan since the Dance of December Souls album. I went with none of the above as i feel they are closest to the post/experimental arena.
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Especially now, they go wherever Anathema / My Dying Bride are. They are (good) Goth Metal, not really that prog. But I like em.
 
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Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other".      I'm a big fan as well.
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Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other".      I'm a big fan as well.


I entirely agree, with the one difference that I was deft enough to click the right button LOL
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Originally posted by Negoba Negoba wrote:

Especially now, they go wherever Anathema / My Dying Bride are. They are (good) Goth Metal, not really that prog. But I like em.
 
Constant issue with me though. Just because I like a band doesn't mean they belong on PA.
 

Yes it's hard to make that distinction.

But looking at their entire career I'd say there's plenty of arguments to defend their 'Experimental/Post Metal'-ishness.
Musically they fit nicely next to Anathema and the Gathering. They sound more technical and more metal then those bands, so Tool and even Opeth come to mind. That's 3 Experimental/Post Metal bands.
And from a pioneering and genre-defining perspective they were amongst the first to push those boundaries.

When I started reviewing here, Katatonia was one of the first bands on my list actually so I was very surprised not to find them here...



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I like Katatonia's last album a lot. This said, I don't think there is a valid reason for them to be in Progarchives.

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I like their use of atmospherics and vocal harmonies, but I just dont hear enough evidence to label them as progressive.
 
I love the group, but if I had to put them anywhere, it would be prog related.
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Originally posted by Dim Dim wrote:

I love the group, but if I had to put them anywhere, it would be prog related.

they are not even that, imho.
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Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other".      I'm a big fan as well.


I entirely agree, with the one difference that I was deft enough to click the right button LOL
 
Yep Experimental/ Post metal IMO too.
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Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:

Originally posted by sinkadotentree sinkadotentree wrote:

Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other".      I'm a big fan as well.


I entirely agree, with the one difference that I was deft enough to click the right button LOL

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Check out MetalArchives for their metal subgenre...
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If they ''had'' to be here, Exp-post metal for me as well.

Saw them live a few weeks ago, really dissapointed, and their new stuff sounds uninspired and dull.

Not many (if any) prog elements IMO - I do however like their earlier stuff (I Break etc.)
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Points: 1698 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:19
Not a prog band. However if I had to put them anywhere on the site and I had a gun to my head I'd pick Experimental/Post. But I voted the bottom one, since they really just don't belong.

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They certainly stretch out a little at times but not enough to warrant being included here
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Experimental/Post Metal. It still bothers me that this band isn't on PA, but I don't think it will ever happen.

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Experimental is where they would fit the best here. 
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Prog metal, I think. I'm very surprised they're not on here.
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Points: 6890 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 03 2010 at 21:47
Okay, not trying to be too argumentative, but how would they fit in experimental post metal? Their use of pop song structures, clean vocals, and rather conventional use of guitar tone/use does not warrant them Experimental, and certainl not post metal. When you compare them to groups like Isis, Tool, or Kayo Dot, their are really very few simularities.
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