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hardworx 
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 Topic: Katatonia - which Prog Archives sub-genre?
Posted: March 03 2010 at 08:33 |
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I do like Katatonia and believe they should be included on Prog Archives - My own choice of sub-genre would be Progressive Metal.
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hardworx
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 08:35 |
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http://katatonia.com/ and/or http://www.myspace.com/katatonia if you need to check them out!
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enemyofthesundevils
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 09:16 |
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Good poll. I've been a huge Kataonia fan since the Dance of December Souls album. I went with none of the above as i feel they are closest to the post/experimental arena.
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Negoba
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 09:42 |
Especially now, they go wherever Anathema / My Dying Bride are. They are (good) Goth Metal, not really that prog. But I like em.
Constant issue with me though. Just because I like a band doesn't mean they belong on PA.
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You are quite a fine person, and I am very fond of you. But you are only quite a little fellow, in a wide world, after all.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 09:46 |
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Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other". I'm a big fan as well.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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Bonnek
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 09:53 |
 sinkadotentree wrote:
Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other". I'm a big fan as well. |
I entirely agree, with the one difference that I was deft enough to click the right button 
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Bonnek
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 10:05 |
Negoba wrote:
Especially now, they go wherever Anathema / My Dying Bride are. They are (good) Goth Metal, not really that prog. But I like em.
Constant issue with me though. Just because I like a band doesn't mean they belong on PA.
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Yes it's hard to make that distinction. But looking at their entire career I'd say there's plenty of arguments to defend their 'Experimental/Post Metal'-ishness. Musically they fit nicely next to Anathema and the Gathering. They sound more technical and more metal then those bands, so Tool and even Opeth come to mind. That's 3 Experimental/Post Metal bands. And from a pioneering and genre-defining perspective they were amongst the first to push those boundaries. When I started reviewing here, Katatonia was one of the first bands on my list actually so I was very surprised not to find them here...
Edited by Bonnek - March 03 2010 at 10:07
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Camel666
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 10:23 |
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I like Katatonia's last album a lot. This said, I don't think there is a valid reason for them to be in Progarchives.
Edited by Camel666 - March 03 2010 at 10:23
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Dim
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 11:28 |
I like their use of atmospherics and vocal harmonies, but I just dont hear enough evidence to label them as progressive.
I love the group, but if I had to put them anywhere, it would be prog related.
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Camel666
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 12:52 |
Dim wrote:
I love the group, but if I had to put them anywhere, it would be prog related.
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they are not even that, imho.
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UMUR
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 13:31 |
Bonnek wrote:
sinkadotentree wrote:
Experimental/Post Metal is where they belong in my opinion. I clicked on "None of the above" by mistake instead of "other". I'm a big fan as well. |
I entirely agree, with the one difference that I was deft enough to click the right button
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Yep Experimental/ Post metal IMO too.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 13:46 |
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
"Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN
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lucas
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 15:22 |
Check out MetalArchives for their metal subgenre...
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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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aapatsos
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 16:56 |
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If they ''had'' to be here, Exp-post metal for me as well.
Saw them live a few weeks ago, really dissapointed, and their new stuff sounds uninspired and dull.
Not many (if any) prog elements IMO - I do however like their earlier stuff (I Break etc.)
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topofsm
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:19 |
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Not a prog band. However if I had to put them anywhere on the site and I had a gun to my head I'd pick Experimental/Post. But I voted the bottom one, since they really just don't belong.
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Petrovsk Mizinski
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:22 |
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They certainly stretch out a little at times but not enough to warrant being included here
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J-Man
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:56 |
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Experimental/Post Metal. It still bothers me that this band isn't on PA, but I don't think it will ever happen.
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Jake Kobrin
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 19:56 |
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Experimental is where they would fit the best here.
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Kashmir75
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 21:35 |
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Prog metal, I think. I'm very surprised they're not on here.
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Hello, mirror. So glad to see you, my friend. It's been a while...
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Dim
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Posted: March 03 2010 at 21:47 |
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Okay, not trying to be too argumentative, but how would they fit in experimental post metal? Their use of pop song structures, clean vocals, and rather conventional use of guitar tone/use does not warrant them Experimental, and certainl not post metal. When you compare them to groups like Isis, Tool, or Kayo Dot, their are really very few simularities.
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