Rage Against The New Age!

Henry Plainview wrote: The Pessimist wrote: Henry: How exactly is that a stupid conclusion again? Moaners irritate me. Simple. They irritate most people. The people who believe in conspiracy theories and indigo children are the ones who have reached stupid conclusions. And considering you're a hard-line atheist, I'd think you'd be more concerned about the impact of faulty reasoning on the downward spiral of humanity.

This line of 'faultless' reasoning is confident enough it seems to dispense entirely with the remotest possibility that any person(s) anywhere at any time have ever been found guilty of conspiring against a third party and suffered punitive action as a result. ?

Collusion ain't restricted to tiresome fantasies about how very famous people met their deaths or if we ever did really walk on the moon.

Mmmm.... Richard dawkins is mentioned... Atheists are mentioned... "anti-theists" are mentioned....

I can feel the return of the RELIGIOUS THREADS!!!

ExittheLemming wrote:  if there's a hyphen in 'anal retentive ?'

hard call but I'm gonna say no

FusionKing wrote: Are there any other hippies like myself out there who are becoming grossly irritated with the con that is 'the new age movement'?  By 'new age' I don't mean herbal remedies, conspiracies, crystal collecting and the wiccans etc. etc. I mean all this absurdity about 2012, 'Ascended Masters', raising the kundalini and indigo kids... If any of you guys know about this pseudo-hippie, cult-like ideology and are as sick of it as I am, let me know I'm not alone!

All these "new age" concepts like the ones you mention I think make for great entertainment, it's not a coincidence that a lot of theosophical concepts have found their way into sci-fi literature (H. P. Lovecraft, Dune etc.) because it makes for some interesting fantastic imagery but in real life I have a hard time taking them seriously as more than allegory at best.

If I am made of energy then why do I feel so often that I don't have any energy left?

Snow Dog wrote: FusionKing wrote: Are there any other hippies like myself out there who are becoming grossly irritated with the con that is 'the new age movement'?  By 'new age' I don't mean herbal remedies, conspiracies, crystal collecting and the wiccans etc. etc. I mean all this absurdity about 2012, 'Ascended Masters', raising the kundalini and indigo kids... If any of you guys know about this pseudo-hippie, cult-like ideology and are as sick of it as I am, let me know I'm not alone!   All that you mention above irritates me.

Ditto..

FusionKing wrote: Simply put, 'anti-theist' means that my viewpoint is one that is against religion. This is because I am stunned by the amount of control and wars and hate that has been the result, alongside the realisation of atheism coming to me. I was a catholic by birth, became disillusioned into agnosticism, during which time my life was falling apart... The new age movement soon became a crutch for me and worsened my situation. To be honest, I feel that by believing in and trying to please any gods, goddesses and high beings, mankind often forgets that he has the power to make the world a happy place and find answers on his own, he often forgets that most people are good in thier intentions, he often forgets to make himself happy. P.S. I don't believe however that this life is all there is... science declares energy to be ever changing but eternal and we are all made of energy!

You've got about five threads to read and approximately 14+ hours of videos to sit through, my dear. 

JLocke wrote: Henry Plainview wrote: The Pessimist wrote: Henry: How exactly is that a stupid conclusion again? Moaners irritate me. Simple. They irritate most people. The people who believe in conspiracy theories and indigo children are the ones who have reached stupid conclusions. And considering you're a hard-line atheist, I'd think you'd be more concerned about the impact of faulty reasoning on the downward spiral of humanity. Okay, Henry's making the same basic point I made, but since he has bigger balls than I, he's going all the way. So, you would say people like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris are ''wasting their breath'', too? I'm pretty sure they too see a downward spiral of sorts, but from the same type people who apparently should be left alone, by your logic.  Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how can speaking out against something you personally find detrimental to humanity be a waste? How is that automatically equalling 'negativity'? I was under the impression that if somebody speaks out against something they believe is doing harm, it's called bravery.  Basically, I am asking this: how does sitting around and pretending problems don't exist solve anything?  Again, this may not have been your point, and I mean this all in friendly debate. Hope no offence is taken.

Don't worry mate, it's all friendly I'm not easily offended

Well let's put it this way: speaking out against something you feel is detrimental to the human race is all very well, but still a waste of breath because let's be honest now, no-one actually listens. And if people do listen, governemts and authorities don't, therefore nothing gets done. I remember a woman in England that was being badly terrorized by anti-social behaviour of local chavs, and she made numourous appeals to the council about it. The council did absolutely nothing, despite writing almost 100 letters of appeal. She eventually killed herself because of it. Sad but true. That is one example of how speaking out is futile. Now I'm not saying that this woman should have just kept quiet, but if she can't get anything done about something as serious as bullying, then what use is it complaining about something as trivial as the "New Age"?

Epignosis wrote: FusionKing wrote: Simply put, 'anti-theist' means that my viewpoint is one that is against religion. This is because I am stunned by the amount of control and wars and hate that has been the result, alongside the realisation of atheism coming to me. I was a catholic by birth, became disillusioned into agnosticism, during which time my life was falling apart... The new age movement soon became a crutch for me and worsened my situation. To be honest, I feel that by believing in and trying to please any gods, goddesses and high beings, mankind often forgets that he has the power to make the world a happy place and find answers on his own, he often forgets that most people are good in thier intentions, he often forgets to make himself happy. P.S. I don't believe however that this life is all there is... science declares energy to be ever changing but eternal and we are all made of energy!    You've got about five threads to read and approximately 14+ hours of videos to sit through, my dear.

Hey man! Just because I don't believe religions, or the ascention theory doesn't mean that I don't think there's more to being human. After all, we only use a minute portion of our brain, DNA can be switched on and off using scientific means, that's a fact, whether or not my experience of both Christianity and New Age was negative and disillusioning.