Rage Against The New Age!
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Topic: Rage Against The New Age!
Posted By: FusionKing
Subject: Rage Against The New Age!
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 11:59
Are there any other hippies like myself out there who are becoming grossly irritated with the con that is 'the new age movement'? By 'new age' I don't mean herbal remedies, conspiracies, crystal collecting and the wiccans etc. etc. I mean all this absurdity about 2012, 'Ascended Masters', raising the kundalini and indigo kids...
If any of you guys know about this pseudo-hippie, cult-like ideology and are as sick of it as I am, let me know I'm not alone!  
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 12:13
All that you mention above irritates me. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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FusionKing wrote:Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 12:26
It was not meant to be specifically derogatory in any way. It is something I became heavily involved in for some time which quickly became a personally damaging experience. I am now an anti- theist because of the bad experiences which myself and others in a number of faiths and belief systems have had and I simply wondered if there were others similar to myself. 
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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 12:33
I tried these canned beans and now I'm sick of food. 
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 13:17
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"Anti-theist" Does that mean you don't want me to exist?  ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 13:33
Okay . . . THAT one made me laugh.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 16:33
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Enigma is good. Also, magic is real. I learned so in Buffy. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Tarquin Underspoon
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 16:41
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Guys, I dunno about you, but I'm already stocking up for the alien attack. Its under 3 years away....do you have any conception of how little time that actually is? Never mind that I believe the world is gonna COMPLETELY END in 2012....I'm gonna be ready just in case it doesn't, gosh darn it! And when I emerge from my basement, tired and haggard, but still alive....My fellow believers and I will start a new human race and a new society, a society in which idiocy and bandwagoning are the only laws. Should the aliens allow me to live, you understand. This is all merely conditional.------------- "WAAAAAAOOOOOUGH! WAAAAAAAUUUUGGHHHH!! WAAAAAOOOO!!!" -The Great Gig in the Sky |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 16:52
i thought this was a Rage Against the Machine thred but i was wrong 
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 16:56
 you I won't align my crystals
you I won't align my crystals you I won't align my crystals you I won't align my crystals!!!!!!!!!!Duh-duh-der-duh-duh
Duh-duh-der-duh-duh
Wooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!! ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 17:03
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^ Yeah... that was actually funny. Sometimes people write things on this forum and others are like "Post of the year! Laughed my ass off!" I usually groan. Nope that was funny to me.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 17:21
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that sounds like a hell of a band name...
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 18:00
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To be perfectly honest, they don't irritate me at all. In fact I'm friends with a lot of the New Age kids. Now I don't belong to any "cult" or social clique of any kind, but if people wanna be in those things that's cool by me, doesn't make them any worse of a person. It's people that moan about cults and cliques that irritate me. Get a life, seriously.
------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 18:14
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^ To be fair, Alex, I think some people people 'speak out' as it were because they have observed how (some) religions and movements have caused a lot of trouble. I'm not saying it's always right to piss all over someone else's outlook, but I can at least see why some people would be compelled to complain. Now me personally, as long as nobody crams anything down my throat, I could care less what they believe. We've all gotta get along on this planet, after all (well don't HAVE to, but it makes things a lot easier when we do ).EDIT: Plus, I think New Age is the least of people's problems to worry about.
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 18:52
Poor reasoning that causes people to reach stupid conclusions is always worth the effort. I thought that pseudoscience was an intrinsic part of hippieness, but maybe I'm just being condescending aagain... ------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 21:40
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Micah: These certain people that "speak out" are most of the time wasting their breath, mainly because it doesn't make even a cubic micrometer's worth of difference. That's basic fact. People moan about stuff all the time and most of the time nothing ever gets done about it... (the likes of Martin Luther King and Ghandi are exceptions to this). Fact of the matter is there will always be a "New Age", and people of the old "New Age" will always have a problem with it. So what exactly is the point in all of this? It's just unnecessary negativity, and it's what's driving this world to the downward spiral that humanity's got itself into. Henry: How exactly is that a stupid conclusion again? Moaners irritate me. Simple. They irritate most people. ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 21:52
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 22:30
I edited out all the words that don't annoy me, for your convenience. ------------- 
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Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 22:41
Okay, Henry's making the same basic point I made, but since he has bigger balls than I, he's going all the way. So, you would say people like Christopher Hitchens, Richard Dawkins or Sam Harris are ''wasting their breath'', too? I'm pretty sure they too see a downward spiral of sorts, but from the same type people who apparently should be left alone, by your logic. Perhaps I'm misunderstanding, but how can speaking out against something you personally find detrimental to humanity be a waste? How is that automatically equalling 'negativity'? I was under the impression that if somebody speaks out against something they believe is doing harm, it's called bravery. Basically, I am asking this: how does sitting around and pretending problems don't exist solve anything? Again, this may not have been your point, and I mean this all in friendly debate. Hope no offence is taken.
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Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 22:48
I don't know about anyone else, but my amethyst crystals seem to be clouding my third eye  ------------- Can you tell me where we're headin'? Lincoln County Road or Armageddon. |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 23:30
This line of 'faultless' reasoning is confident enough it seems to dispense entirely with the remotest possibility that any person(s) anywhere at any time have ever been found guilty of conspiring against a third party and suffered punitive action as a result. ? Collusion ain't restricted to tiresome fantasies about how very famous people met their deaths or if we ever did really walk on the moon. ------------- 
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Posted By: Henry Plainview
Date Posted: February 02 2010 at 23:40
------------- if you own a sodastream i hate you |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 00:41
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Mmmm.... Richard dawkins is mentioned... Atheists are mentioned... "anti-theists" are mentioned....
I can feel the return of the RELIGIOUS THREADS!!!  ------------- 
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Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 01:15
Well say what you mean then so that you don't have to ask me if there's a hyphen in 'anal retentive ?' -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 01:50
hard call but I'm gonna say no |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 01:58
...you'll not want to know I wear crystals everyday then, Chris... ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 03:33
All these "new age" concepts like the ones you mention I think make for great entertainment, it's not a coincidence that a lot of theosophical concepts have found their way into sci-fi literature (H. P. Lovecraft, Dune etc.) because it makes for some interesting fantastic imagery but in real life I have a hard time taking them seriously as more than allegory at best. ------------- "The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 07:06
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Simply put, 'anti-theist' means that my viewpoint is one that is against religion. This is because I am stunned by the amount of control and wars and hate that has been the result, alongside the realisation of atheism coming to me. I was a catholic by birth, became disillusioned into agnosticism, during which time my life was falling apart... The new age movement soon became a crutch for me and worsened my situation. To be honest, I feel that by believing in and trying to please any gods, goddesses and high beings, mankind often forgets that he has the power to make the world a happy place and find answers on his own, he often forgets that most people are good in thier intentions, he often forgets to make himself happy. P.S. I don't believe however that this life is all there is... science declares energy to be ever changing but eternal and we are all made of energy! |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 07:13
If I am made of energy then why do I feel so often that I don't have any energy left?    ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 07:28
entropy ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 07:31
Ditto.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 07:36
You only really need to worry if you feel a burning or stinging sensation in your brown eye. It means that your wellbeing karma levels are low, on account of not swallowing enough bullsh*t.  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 08:14
You've got about five threads to read and approximately 14+ hours of videos to sit through, my dear. ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 09:01
I know. I was just thinking that when I read your post!
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Posted By: The Pessimist
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 10:49
Don't worry mate, it's all friendly  I'm not easily offended Well let's put it this way: speaking out against something you feel is detrimental to the human race is all very well, but still a waste of breath because let's be honest now, no-one actually listens. And if people do listen, governemts and authorities don't, therefore nothing gets done. I remember a woman in England that was being badly terrorized by anti-social behaviour of local chavs, and she made numourous appeals to the council about it. The council did absolutely nothing, despite writing almost 100 letters of appeal. She eventually killed herself because of it. Sad but true. That is one example of how speaking out is futile. Now I'm not saying that this woman should have just kept quiet, but if she can't get anything done about something as serious as bullying, then what use is it complaining about something as trivial as the "New Age"? ------------- "Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value." Arnold Schoenberg |
Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 11:00
...To let off steam using the Great British art of moaning dear friend! 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 11:17
Someone quickly call Mike!! -------------
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 11:19
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Posted By: FusionKing
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 11:46
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Hey man! Just because I don't believe religions, or the ascention theory doesn't mean that I don't think there's more to being human. After all, we only use a minute portion of our brain, DNA can be switched on and off using scientific means, that's a fact, whether or not my experience of both Christianity and New Age was negative and disillusioning. |
Posted By: JLocke
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 14:02
The fact that you (apparently) were involved in New Age at all is a bit shocking to me. Christianity makes a little more sense, in that so many families raise their children to follow that belief. But how many 'New Age' kids are there? At this point, I wouldn't guess all that many. So that means you intentionally sought out that stuff. But if Christianity didn't work for you, why did you think New Age would? I'm just curious.
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Posted By: Epignosis
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 14:04
So how much of your brain can you cut out and still function completely as you do now? ------------- https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays" rel="nofollow - https://epignosis.bandcamp.com/album/a-month-of-sundays |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 14:06
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We use all of our brain. The idea that we only use a portion is an antiquated idea. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 03 2010 at 15:03
This is true...well noted Claire Bear! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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