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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 23:05
Originally posted by topofsm topofsm wrote:

If this does get anywhere I think we should make a 'world music influenced prog' type genre (not necessarily with that name). I don't really give a crap about whether we include rock andaluz, but I'm just saying that the 'world prog' subgenre would be a lot easier to maintain. We could even throw the Raga rock bands in there so there wouldn't be as pointless of a subgenre.
This is actually a very good idea, but I'm not sure where one would draw the line on what counts as "world music". Would it simply be rock influenced by the folk traditions of countries besides the US and Britain?
 
I find it interesting that nobody listens to Raga. Maybe it's because the people who would listen to that would rather listen to real Indian music and not a George Harrison wannabe. At least that is the case with me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 15 2009 at 23:35
Not that we should do this, but it actually makes more sense than a lot of stuff proposed here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 00:15
Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

http://progfreak.com/home/music.xhtml?path=tags/ethnic/andaluz

Any help completing that list is greatly appreciated. All you need is to create an account and assign the tag - and any genre or other tag. You don't have to decide between Symphonic, Jazz or Andaluz, any combination is possible. Smile


Sorry Mike, your posting of Andaluz tag option doesn't help this discussion even a little bit.

I have the utmost respect for you, your work, and your website. But Andaluz is one among twenty sub-tags there and carries no credibility to discuss here whether Prog Andaluz is a valid as a PA prog subgenre or not.

Having dozens of tags is a great thing to pin-point an artist and attract a listener in a most visual and analytical way possible, but if you have had only 10-15 subgenres on PF, that would carry some weight as an well-established genre in the artistic and social context (and could be taken into account while discussing it here).
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 03:05
I agree that creating a Prog Andaluz section could lead to a proliferation of sub-genres, each having only a handful of bands. If geographical area is to be a criterion, what about opening it out to include the whole Iberian Peninsula... bands from Spain and Portugal, Prog Iberia? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 03:21
Originally posted by clarke2001 clarke2001 wrote:

Originally posted by Mr ProgFreak Mr ProgFreak wrote:

http://progfreak.com/home/music.xhtml?path=tags/ethnic/andaluz

Any help completing that list is greatly appreciated. All you need is to create an account and assign the tag - and any genre or other tag. You don't have to decide between Symphonic, Jazz or Andaluz, any combination is possible. Smile


Sorry Mike, your posting of Andaluz tag option doesn't help this discussion even a little bit.

I have the utmost respect for you, your work, and your website. But Andaluz is one among twenty sub-tags there and carries no credibility to discuss here whether Prog Andaluz is a valid as a PA prog subgenre or not.

Having dozens of tags is a great thing to pin-point an artist and attract a listener in a most visual and analytical way possible, but if you have had only 10-15 subgenres on PF, that would carry some weight as an well-established genre in the artistic and social context (and could be taken into account while discussing it here).


You're right in pointing out that the fact that Andaluz exists as a tag at PF doesn't help the discussion here. However, if the discussion here takes its inevitable course and Andaluz is not created as a sub-genre here, Some of those who like the idea of compiling a list of progressive albums in that style are invited to do that at PF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 16 2009 at 04:34
Originally posted by WalterDigsTunes WalterDigsTunes wrote:


Originally posted by Petrovsk Mizinski Petrovsk Mizinski wrote:

I propose the tech/extreme/black/depressive/doom genre.In fact why not propose another 1000000 genres while we are at it.
Anyway, there is a definite stylistic similarity between many of the groups suggested by ProgressiveAttic. Its enough of a difference to mark them apart from progressive artists from other regions and with different approaches to music.


While I don't disagree with you, does that make it necessary for the artists to be put into a new sub genre? I mean, any of these artists who aren't on PA could easily fit in other subgenres.

Also, you can't really say that one artist belongs in the same subgenre, or even on PA, because of a 'stylistic similarity' with another artist... I mean, New Order have some 'stylistic similarities' with earlier No-man, but does New Order belong on PA because of these small shared characteristics? Hell no.

Also, as Snobb said, if we add another geographically based and named subgenre, another and another and another will follow.
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