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Points: 34550 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 14:15
Yeah, if ONE thing should be kept out of the SR it's politics.

On a lighter note indeed, and to stick a hot spear in Henry's side:




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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8156329.stm
wow, France is f**ked up.
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 14:23
Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8156329.stm
wow, France is f**ked up.
Normally I find the rhetoric on France annoying, but good lord, that is only a step away from the complete breakdown of civilized society.
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Originally posted by KoS KoS wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/8156329.stm
wow, France is f**ked up.



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REALLY!?
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wow. That is very much f**ked.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 14:44
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Leave the terrorists alone and they may actually leave us alone.  Invading them, killing them or whatever, will just make things work.


So why did Jakarta deserve to get bombed today?


I haven't seen the news today...

What's happened?
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 14:46
Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Leave the terrorists alone and they may actually leave us alone.  Invading them, killing them or whatever, will just make things work.


So why did Jakarta deserve to get bombed today?


I haven't seen the news today...

What's happened?


Islamic extremists (suicide) bombed a hotel in Jakarta.  At least 8 dead, many more injured.

Just to go to the BBC homepage, I'm sure it's a top story.
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Originally posted by JJLehto JJLehto wrote:

As much as it pains me, and believe me it does....I have to agree with Henry.
Eventually we have to leave Afghanistan, and Iraq did distract us from it, but why James should we not have gone in to begin with?
That was one of the few times I actually thought it was right. Unless you're going with the "war on terrorism should be on terrorists, not countries" which I agree with, but the Taliban WAS a terrorist organization.

And no Henry, if you havn't figured out how I work let me tell you: The more you say "stop" the more I will continue, ESPECIALLY if you show it annoys you.



No, you're right.  It's a war on terrorism.  Not a war on a country.

I want to get rid of the Taliban/Al-Quaida as much as everyone but they went about it the wrong way.  You don't bomb the crap out a country just to try and kill an organisation that may or may not have been there in the first place.

Besides, if Osama had been killed, it wouldn't have been the end of it anyway.  It's not just about Afghanistan.

There's terrorists in the UK.  There's Terrorists in America.  Do we then bomb those places?

No, of course not.

So why bomb Tora Bora, Kandahar, Helmand and all those other places, hoping to stop terrorists that have likely moved to Pakistan and the rest of the world?  It may have been a threat initially but it's not so much now.

I'm not saying give up entirely.  I'm saying there approach it a different way.


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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 14:52
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:


Leave the terrorists alone and they may actually leave us alone.  Invading them, killing them or whatever, will just make things work.


So why did Jakarta deserve to get bombed today?


I haven't seen the news today...

What's happened?


Islamic extremists (suicide) bombed a hotel in Jakarta.  At least 8 dead, many more injured.

Just to go to the BBC homepage, I'm sure it's a top story.


That's awful news. Cry

And to answer your question.

They didn't deserve to be bombed.  It wouldn't have mattered if we were in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan or nowhere at all, they'd still have bombed there.  That's the problem with this form of terrorism.  It's almost impossible to stop.

But bombing the crap out of somewhere and killing civilians (with guns, tanks, helicopters and whatever else) isn't the answer either.


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Points: 22989 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:32
Omlette du fromage...
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:33
Finally listening to Nivraym.

Incredible.
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Points: 7037 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:35
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Finally listening to Nivraym.

Incredible.


Shocked Still wondering if I should get the remaster.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:40
I haven't heard the original.

But this is so freaking good, this might top AS for me.
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Points: 89372 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:42
Hmmm, there's a section of Born To Run that reminds me of VdGG's Killers.  It's just disturbed me greatly.

And I need to hear the remaster of Nivraym.
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Points: 16715 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:48

Prison state!
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Points: 16310 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:52
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:


That sh*t is sad.
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Points: 7037 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:58
Originally posted by Padraic Padraic wrote:

Finally listening to Nivraym.

Incredible.


BLAH! Enough talk of this! I'm going to download it off amazon. ::FLEEEEEEE::
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 15:59
* nods approvingly *
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Ah but Luke E. Kant, remember you'll be downloading the remaster, most likely.  Pat's listening to the original.

Also, Pat needs L'Infonie's Volume 333 and Volume 3333.
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Points: 31169 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 17 2009 at 16:01
No, I'm listening to the remaster.
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