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BaldFriede
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 02 2005
Location: Germany
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Posted: July 19 2009 at 16:58 |
Progger wrote:
I think anyone who isn't a Genesis fanboy would agree with you! You can more or less discard sides 3 & 4 as total filler!  |
On the contrary; side 3 and 4 are the best of "The Lamb"! Much better than side 1 and 2. And yes, that includes "Waiting Room", one of the best Genesis tracks ever!
Edited by BaldFriede - July 19 2009 at 17:00
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Progger
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Posted: July 19 2009 at 12:46 |
I think anyone who isn't a Genesis fanboy would agree with you! You can more or less discard sides 3 & 4 as total filler! 
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Conor Fynes
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Joined: February 11 2009
Location: Vancouver, CA
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Posted: July 18 2009 at 13:41 |
riverside is cool, but somehow i just cant really get into them. they've never been 'outstanding' to me..
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verslibre
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Joined: July 01 2004
Location: CA
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 18:41 |
Cloud wrote:
I don't care. I just like some bands which other people call prog. |
That's how it see it! It all just boils down to what we like or don't like. 
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Cloud
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Posted: July 17 2009 at 07:59 |
I don't care. I just like some bands which other people call prog.
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Logan
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 15:05 |
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joelossia
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 14:56 |
I dont know... i dont get pineapple thief but i get porcupine tree
It would hav to be VdGG or Magma
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
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Posted: July 16 2009 at 13:57 |
Logan wrote:
Former topics of his have indicated that he likes plenty of progressive metal (though I'm sure he has his preferred forms of progressive metal -- he has said that he doesn't like "artsy sludge metal"). |
No, you misread my post... I'm sorry if it came across as sarcastic, but I said I liked some of the "prog-sludge" stuff and came with some examples of bands in that niche I happen to like. However, with Isis it's like the art rock influences and the sludge metal influences cancel each other out instead of complementing each other like with Neurosis.  EDIT: Actually, the dude who said I didn't like prog metal in general is at least on the right track... I like a lot of bands that were obviously from before the border between metal and the harder end of prog rock was clearly drawn, heavy metal and prog rock being my two favourite genres after all (with post-punk a close third) but as for music that deliberately straddles the line most of that I've heard rubs me the wrong way. As for why, that probably deserves its own thread in the prog blogs forum. 
Edited by Toaster Mantis - July 16 2009 at 14:06
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Logan
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 13:18 |
I haven't really heard enough Mastodon, or tried to get into it, but I felt that I was not ready for it -- not ready enough to really "get it". I rather feel that I lack sufficient experience with that musical language/ idiom to really appreciate it. Incidentally, I did like Thordendal's Special Defects (particularly due to the jazz influence).
I know you're just making a joke, but it's so automatic for me to spell theater with the "re" end-spelling that for quite some time I had to really think about spelling it with "er". Be much the same with a band called Color or The Specializers (if not thinking I might spell it Colour or The Specialisers. Regarding Magma (a band that many seem to try and fail at enjoying), have you heard the band's first two albums, ProGR72? I think those jazzy ones could appeal to you.
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Michelle1PA
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 11:49 |
I second Isis and Mastodon....I've tried a couple of their albums and they did absolutely nothing for me.
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Logan
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 11:48 |
progrocker2244 wrote:
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Isis: Supposedly they're making music out of complex philosophical concepts, but all I hear is Radiohead-style 1990s depressive rock with growls and more guitar distortion... and I can get into other artsy sludge metal bands like The Melvins, Neurosis and Pelican.
Mastodon: Extremely talented musicians whom I respect for having a truly unique style that utterly defies existing genres, but their style is just not one I find interesting beyond the novelty factor.
Opeth: I should in theory like these guys, but in practice I find their combination of death metal and prog rock clichés way too literal and clumsy so the whole thing feels rather stiff and lifeless to my ears almost like they're meant to be a stealthy deadpan parody of the entire "progressive metal" concept.
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I'm thinking you just don't like progressive metal in general...
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Why based on these examples, and his claim regarding Opeth that in theory he should like those guys, and that he respects Mastodon? Former topics of his have indicated that he likes plenty of progressive metal (though I'm sure he has his preferred forms of progressive metal -- he has said that he doesn't like "artsy sludge metal").
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J-Man
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Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Points: 7826
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 11:32 |
Toaster Mantis wrote:
Isis: Supposedly they're making music out of complex philosophical concepts, but all I hear is Radiohead-style 1990s depressive rock with growls and more guitar distortion... and I can get into other artsy sludge metal bands like The Melvins, Neurosis and Pelican.
Mastodon: Extremely talented musicians whom I respect for having a truly unique style that utterly defies existing genres, but their style is just not one I find interesting beyond the novelty factor.
Opeth: I should in theory like these guys, but in practice I find their combination of death metal and prog rock clichés way too literal and clumsy so the whole thing feels rather stiff and lifeless to my ears almost like they're meant to be a stealthy deadpan parody of the entire "progressive metal" concept.
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I'm thinking you just don't like progressive metal in general...
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J-Man
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Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 11:30 |
ColonelClaypool wrote:
Asia is one band I just can't seem to 'get'. I picked up the Alpha album a while back out of the bargain bin, and it just sounds horribly dated to my ears. It displays all the bad things about music from the 80's.
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1. You must realize Asia ISN'T a popular prog band here 2. You must also realize Asia isn't even prog  I do agree it sounds very dated at times, but they have produced some of the best POP music ever.
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Toaster Mantis
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Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 11:18 |
Isis: Supposedly they're making music out of complex philosophical concepts, but all I hear is Radiohead-style 1990s depressive rock with growls and more guitar distortion... and I can get into other artsy sludge metal bands like The Melvins, Neurosis and Pelican.
Mastodon: Extremely talented musicians whom I respect for having a truly unique style that utterly defies existing genres, but their style is just not one I find interesting beyond the novelty factor.
Opeth: I should in theory like these guys, but in practice I find their combination of death metal and prog rock clichés way too literal and clumsy so the whole thing feels rather stiff and lifeless to my ears almost like they're meant to be a stealthy deadpan parody of the entire "progressive metal" concept.
Edited by Toaster Mantis - July 15 2009 at 11:21
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ColonelClaypool
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Joined: October 22 2005
Location: Bergen, Norway
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Posted: July 15 2009 at 04:07 |
Asia is one band I just can't seem to 'get'. I picked up the Alpha album a while back out of the bargain bin, and it just sounds horribly dated to my ears. It displays all the bad things about music from the 80's.
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With magic, you can turn a frog into a prince.
With science, you can turn a frog into a Ph.D. and you still have the frog you started with.
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Progologue
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Joined: July 14 2009
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Points: 58
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 19:57 |
King Crimson. i quite like them but I don't love them.
I only like parts of ITCOTCK, Starless, Islands.
I quite like Poseidon and most of Larks and Red, but the latter 2 aren't what I call great, but mainly pretty good
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J-Man
Prog Reviewer
Joined: August 07 2008
Location: Philadelphia,PA
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 18:37 |
ProGR72 wrote:
Dream Theatre
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Well, since it's Dream Theater, not Theatre, I guess you aren't putting my favorite band in the dust 
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CPicard
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Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 18:12 |
Dream Theater. Rush. And any band that gets a new daily topic about on PA.
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Tsevir Leirbag
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Joined: May 03 2009
Location: Montréal
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 15:23 |
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Les mains, les pieds balancés
Sur tant de mers, tant de planchers,
Un marin mort,
Il dormira
- Paul Éluard
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Michelle1PA
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Joined: July 08 2007
Location: United States
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Posted: July 14 2009 at 12:00 |
I couldn't get into Porcupine Tree. Rush I never was a big fan, although in limited quantities they are starting to grow on me.
The Mars Volta: really don't care for most of their work, but I think Deloused in the Comatorium is a great album. That one clicked with me, their others don't
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