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Poll Question: Who was the first prog band?
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    Posted: May 15 2009 at 15:46
Who invented prog?
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The Mothers of Invention.
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It was either Thomas Edison or Nikolai Tesla depending on your point of view.
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Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

The Mothers of Invention.


End the thread here.
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It's hard to give anyone the credits for inventing prog.
Pink Floyd and The Nice (UK), Frank Zappa (USA), and the Collectors (Canada) belonged to the first bands that walked the prog path.
The Beatles and the Moody Blues among many others were prog-related as well.
Yes, Genesis and King Crimson appeared a little later.
 
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I invented prog.
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I really do not know,it just evolved for me from rock and psychedelic music and some where in that time it happened.King Crimson's "in the Court of the Crimson King seems to be a defining moment but Frank Zappa was full swing and Miles Davis went fusion. Confused

I myself am curious when the actual term progressive came into use to describe the genre as when I bought a lot of my early prog albums they were just a new type of rock album but  I will say ........Its Only Rock and Roll but I like it,...like it.........yes I do Big smile
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All the artists mentioned are great, and get played a lot around my ivory tower, but I voted for "Other."  Since that can indicate anybody I want, I choose to designate it "All of the Above."  There is no single inventor of Prog as there is no single inventor of Rock 'n' Roll, or Jazz, of Music itself.  There's no single inventor to the Internet, Television, Radio, Automobile, etc.  There are, however, artists significant to the development of Prog, several of which are named here.  I would add The Nice, Mothers of Invention, and Soft Machine, too, but it's not my poll.
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Originally posted by Matthew T Matthew T wrote:

I myself am curious when the actual term progressive came into use to describe the genre as when I bought a lot of my early prog albums they were just a new type of rock album but  I will say ........Its Only Rock and Roll but I like it,...like it.........yes I do Big smile
When I was a high school it was definitely known as Progressive with a capital "P" in the UK - that would be somewhere between '69 and '71, but certainly before '72.
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Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

The Mothers of Invention.
 
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Procul Harum or The Moody Blues at about the same time.
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Originally posted by LiquidEternity LiquidEternity wrote:

The Mothers of Invention.

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Originally posted by Dean Dean wrote:

Originally posted by Matthew T Matthew T wrote:

I myself am curious when the actual term progressive came into use to describe the genre as when I bought a lot of my early prog albums they were just a new type of rock album but  I will say ........Its Only Rock and Roll but I like it,...like it.........yes I do Big smile
When I was a high school it was definitely known as Progressive with a capital "P" in the UK - that would be somewhere between '69 and '71, but certainly before '72.
Smile  Thanks Dean, I never actually heard the term used and really did not know that it was an actual genre till the internet. They kept me in the dark down hereLOL. It really was Porcupine Tree that renewed my interest with a venegeance in progWink
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Originally posted by Hercules Hercules wrote:

Procol Harum or The Moody Blues at about the same time.


correct, with slightly more weight to Harum
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Iron Butterfly circa 1968. What else even sounded close to Innagodadavida. It was also the first song in epic length.
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I haven't voted, and I'm not going to.

 
The point at which Prog came about doesn't/didn't exist, as (like many other musical forms) it evolved over a period of time, involving several artists/bands, to which you could also add 'artistic movements' (e.g. the British 'Underground' scene, the UFO Club, IT all-night events). Somewhere on the PA site (I don't think it's on the forum) is a fairly convincing argument abouth how THEY think it came about.
What MAY be a better line of discussion is to pin-point bands, albums, events, etc that defined the DIRECTION of music to(wards) Prog. On that line of thought, I would suggest "Rubber Soul" by The Beatles, "Piper at the Gates of Dawn" by Pink Floyd (together with the all-night concerts they did at Alexandra Palace) and "In the Court of the Crimson King" by King Crimson.
As an example, the Progressive heart of Genesis was, almost certainly, Steve Hackett - what influenced him to go prog? I do know that he was at The Speakeasy at King Crimson's first ever gig (April 1969) when he was only 17. Therefore, it's a fairly safe bet that Genesis followed King Crimson on the Prog route. Similarly, Bill Bruford said in an interview that Yes regarded Crimson's "In the Wake of Poseidon" as an artistic standard. So, what influenced Crimson? If you keep going back along these lines, THAT may answer a few questions. 
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Prog was a product of musical evolution, and for that reason a process, you can't say it started here or there.
 
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