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Epignosis 
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 Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:15 |
 Yorkie X wrote:
Few bands manage to reach the level of success like Kansas Leftoverture did and it did so not just for its prog elements (as witnessed on guitar hero 2 carry on wayward son) The album flat out rocks in many places it has all the ingredients one who knows what they are talking about looks for in a album serenity and fusion its a melting pot of ideas .. disapointed in one of prog rocks biggest hopes to crack the commercial code being shot down like are in this poll ! Had they been called London I bet it would be a differant story.
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ten years after
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:18 |
Yorkie X wrote:
disapointed in one of prog rocks biggest hopes to crack the commercial code being shot down like are in this poll ! Had they been called London I bet it would be a differant story. |
A British equivalent to Kansas would hardly be called London. Derby would be more like it. 
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MovingPictures07
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:43 |
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Takeshi Kovacs
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 18:53 |
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Renaissance for me....but not a bad album by any means.
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 Open the gates of the city wide....
Check out my music taste: http://www.last.fm/user/TakeshiKovacs/
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Zitro
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 19:15 |
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I went with the "f*** camel" group. I don't really like Mirage.
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harmonium.ro
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 19:15 |
I think the only things worthy off this thread are Peter's posts. 
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 20:15 |
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless.
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Epignosis
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 20:39 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Clueless? Really? Like "I don't have a clue how someone could come in here touting his opinion as though it were fact?"
Yeah...I must be clueless.
Edited by Epignosis - March 21 2009 at 20:41
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ghost_of_morphy
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:00 |
And your vote was for which most upstanding and worthy album??
If you happen to be the lone voice that mentions the Atlas album, I will freely admit that I am not familiar with it. As for all of the others, I assure you that my opinion is correct. 
Edited by ghost_of_morphy - March 21 2009 at 21:07
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Failcore
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:19 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Give me a damn break. What the hell is your problem.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 21 2009 at 21:21 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Why, what about Camel? Largely agree, I had also mentioned Leftoverture and Depois.., would also agree with Hamburger Concerto and the Harmonium album, though none of these albums are bad, just not among the top 20 for me. But Nursery Cryme? Actually the thing I like about Cryme is that it is indeed so difficult and takes some persevering with to enjoy it, more so than maybe even Trespass. Musical Box is IMHO one of their masterpieces, so is Fountain of Salmacis. And it's not because I am a Genesis fan that I say this , now if you had said Trick of the tail, I would have agreed all the way. Almost no filler and most of the songs are good, but after a few listens, there's practically nothing new to gain out of listening to that album, save for Ripples. Surely easy listening albums should go right out of the top 20! 
Actually, when I square up Cryme with SEBTP, I feel SEBTP is a tad overrated.  Yes, it's my favourite Genesis album but the gulf between that and Cryme is not as huge as the ratings suggest, either Cryme needs a better rating - are you listening, micky! - or maybe SEBTP needs to be dragged down! 
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stonebeard
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 02:02 |
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Bla Vardag was in Neo-Prog long enough for me not to consider it a Symphonic album now, therefore I vote for that.
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el böthy
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 02:40 |
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I´d say Echolyns, cause although they are a great band I don´t really can listen to them too much before getting a bit tired of them.
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"You want me to play what, Robert?"
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fuxi
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 04:50 |
Man Erg wrote:
Focus - Hamburger Concerto.
I just cannot get into that album.After Focus 3 it just seems bland. |
Couldn't agree more!
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b_olariu
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 04:57 |
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Si On Avait Besoin D'une Cinquieme Saison (Harmonium)
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GosudO
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 06:28 |
Why the hell does Moonmadness have so many votes. 
Edited by GosudO - March 22 2009 at 10:08
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TGM: Orb
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 07:03 |
rogerthat wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Now THIS is an interesting poll. Harmonium wins this one for me, but I surely understand where votes for the following come from.
Depois Do Fim (Not bad, but extremely overrated.)
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.)
Hamburger Concerto (WAYYYY OVERATED!)
Leftoverture (Big hits interspersed with big wastes of time.)
If you voted for anything other than those five, you are clueless. |
Why, what about Camel? Largely agree, I had also mentioned Leftoverture and Depois.., would also agree with Hamburger Concerto and the Harmonium album, though none of these albums are bad, just not among the top 20 for me. But Nursery Cryme? Actually the thing I like about Cryme is that it is indeed so difficult and takes some persevering with to enjoy it, more so than maybe even Trespass. Musical Box is IMHO one of their masterpieces, so is Fountain of Salmacis. And it's not because I am a Genesis fan that I say this , now if you had said Trick of the tail, I would have agreed all the way. Almost no filler and most of the songs are good, but after a few listens, there's practically nothing new to gain out of listening to that album, save for Ripples. Surely easy listening albums should go right out of the top 20!
Actually, when I square up Cryme with SEBTP, I feel SEBTP is a tad overrated. Yes, it's my favourite Genesis album but the gulf between that and Cryme is not as huge as the ratings suggest, either Cryme needs a better rating - are you listening, micky! - or maybe SEBTP needs to be dragged down! |
Heh, as a big Genesis fan I can say Nursery Cryme is comfortably one of my favourites. It's a challenging listen, sure, and the production's not as finessed as SEBTP etc., but that's half the point. There's just about always something going on, all the songs are excellent, and it contains two of Genesis' all-time finest songs. Oddly, Trick Of The Tail was the complete reverse for me, didn't like it at all on the first dozen or so listens, but it's grown on me immensely. Sure, it's not a masterpiece (there's still the occasion where Collins doesn't quite gel with the music) but it's at least twice as good as Moonmadness.
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rogerthat
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 07:22 |
TGM: Orb wrote:
Heh, as a big Genesis fan I can say Nursery Cryme is comfortably one of my favourites. It's a challenging listen, sure, and the production's not as finessed as SEBTP etc., but that's half the point. There's just about always something going on, all the songs are excellent, and it contains two of Genesis' all-time finest songs.
Oddly, Trick Of The Tail was the complete reverse for me, didn't like it at all on the first dozen or so listens, but it's grown on me immensely. Sure, it's not a masterpiece (there's still the occasion where Collins doesn't quite gel with the music) but it's at least twice as good as Moonmadness.
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But every album on this list is better than Moonmadness, anyway, unless you are talking of the other two Camel albums, where I am hard pressed to decide which one would be a better sleeping pill.  I loved ATOTT a lot the first two or three times and then it started levelling off. Oddly, I had heard Ripples long before I went and bought ATOTT or had heard any of the other songs on the album and I still visit that song once in a while. The other songs get a little too straightforward though they are all well written and full of energy, esp the instrumental and Dance On A Volcano.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 08:04 |
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.) |
What a strange thing to say. Difficult? Its one of the main, essential, early albums that shaped the sound and approach of what progrock is all about. Calling Nursery Cryme overrated is simply a misunderstanding. No matter if you like it or not.
GosudO wrote:
Why the hell does Moonmadness has so many votes.
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I take the warm, melancholic sound of Camel over most on this list.
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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micky
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Posted: March 22 2009 at 08:30 |
Rocktopus wrote:
ghost_of_morphy wrote:
Nursery Crime (Genesis's most difficult and overrated album.) |
What a strange thing to say. Difficult?
Its one of the main, essential, early albums that shaped the sound and approach of what progrock is all about. Calling Nursery Cryme overrated is simply a misunderstanding. No matter if you like it or not.
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it might have been Rocky... it more than 10 people and the bands families had heard it when it was released hahahha. Nothing to do with liking it.... later.of course they shaped the sound of prog (for better or for worse). sure they did... but Genesis were the proto-typical 2nd division prog band during those days that had to skip home and seek audiences in other countries to pay the bills.
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