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Poll Question: Which of these do you like least?
Poll Choice Votes Poll Statistics
8 [6.45%]
4 [3.23%]
2 [1.61%]
9 [7.26%]
3 [2.42%]
3 [2.42%]
5 [4.03%]
20 [16.13%]
2 [1.61%]
2 [1.61%]
13 [10.48%]
4 [3.23%]
5 [4.03%]
3 [2.42%]
5 [4.03%]
18 [14.52%]
4 [3.23%]
1 [0.81%]
1 [0.81%]
12 [9.68%]
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oh my views are well known on Yes... like ELP... misclassified...but it's all about what people expect to find when they come here. 
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Close to the Edge, hands down.

Side-note #1: I haven't heard Kansas and Echolyn.
Side-note #2: The couple of times I listened to Anglagard's Hybrid, I got the 90s Genesis and Yes hint, but also Crimson, GG and extra. In my conception, they're more eclectic.


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A prog rock store, easy to find in my town?

Ha dot ha dot ha


Good excuse to come to America!  (Or order online)


I'll do the first some day.

As for the second, I'll do it as soon as Kansas reaches the top of my "buy & try" list. Wink
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I havent heard Echolyn and Atlas  but from the other ones I think "Depois do fim" ( what the heck is so unique about this record???) and "Mirage" are the worst  you can add "Moonmadness to that list as well.
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I'm wavering about a few of them, actually.

A Trick of Tail is a very good album, but kind of bland.

Mirage is also good, but not spectacular.

And as much as I enjoy Echolyn, Suffocating the Bloom is a mess.
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Suffocating the Bloom is fantastic and deserves to be up there.

Anything by Camel. I'd replace it with Epignosis. Wink
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Personally, I'd remove Camels The Snow Goose, exceptionally dull, and replace it with White Willow's Storm Season.
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Moonmadness is mostly not something I'd listen to.
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Have I wandered onto an ANTI prog forum? Confused
 
So much negative stuff about the music, lately. I don't get it  -- it's a great way to irritate people.
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The Snow Goose, Moonmadness and Selling England are by far the best 3; indeed the Genesia and Camel albums are all fabulous. So are Hamburger (Moving Waves is even better though), CTTE, Hybris and Scheherezade. Relayer's damn good, Kansas, Bacamarte and Harmonium are OK, so (since I haven't heard Atlas) it will have to be Fragile.

Half of it is a waste of vinyl and even Roundabout can't save it.
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Have I wandered onto an ANTI prog forum? Confused
 
So much negative stuff about the music, lately. I don't get it  -- it's a great way to irritate people.


Everything's been pretty calm so far here.
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Have I wandered onto an ANTI prog forum? Confused


No - there just happens to be "progressive rock" albums that I (and others) don't enjoy, or don't rate as highly as some others.
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The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway is unbearable so that's where my vote went.
Would be followed by Camel's The Snow Goose (yawn) and all but Nursery Cryme from the Genesis slate.
Scheherazade and Other Stories, Depois Do Fim, and Leftoverture (no Progressive Pop Rock category? LOL) are all overrated.
Haven't heard Bla Vardag (Atlas) or Suffocating the Bloom (Echolyn)


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Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Have I wandered onto an ANTI prog forum? Confused


No - there just happens to be "progressive rock" albums that I (and others) don't enjoy, or don't rate as highly as some others.
 
Well obviously -- we don't all like the same things, or even to the same degree, but does this topic (which works against one of the site's features, designed to serve those looking for well-liked prog) really represent the site and our 'representative' reviewers and collabs well, and deserve to be on our front page, for the world to see? Confused
 
(And of course 'worst" implies that at least several are at least 'bad.")
 
I just seems misplaced here, to me, and focusing on the negative unnecessarily. I would like to think there's something praiseworthy in all of those albums -- thus their popularity here, among dedicated prog fans.
 
Ermm Should I do a similar one for prog metal? (I bet The T would really appreciate that....)


Edited by Peter - March 21 2009 at 20:06
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

Have I wandered onto an ANTI prog forum? Confused


No - there just happens to be "progressive rock" albums that I (and others) don't enjoy, or don't rate as highly as some others.
 
Well obviously -- we don't all like the same things, or even to the same degree, but does this topic (which works against one of the site's features, designed to serve those looking for well-liked prog) really represent the site and our 'representative' reviewers and collabs well, and deserve to be on our front page, for the world to see? Confused
 
(And of course 'worst" implies that at least several are at least 'bad.")
 
I just seems misplaced here, to me, and focussing on the negative unnecessarily. I would like to think there's something praiseworthy in all of those albums -- thus their popularity here, among dedicated prog fans.
 
Ermm Should I do a similar one for prog metal? (I bet The T would really appreciate that....)


Sorry Peter.  There's bad prog rock out there, and all of us have different opinions on what that is. 

Had I made a "best of" poll with the same entries, it would turn into a SEbtP vs CttE poll...and who wants another one of those?
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Pretty much anything from Camel as well as anything from Genesis (except SEbtP) that's in the top 20 could go for me. But since we're referring to specific albums, I'll go with either....Moonmadness, Mirage, or (please don't stone meEmbarrassed) Foxtrot. I'd replace two of them with one of the other first 5 Kansas albums and the other with Epignosis.Big smile

As for one of the three, I'll go with Moonmadness. Mirage has at least some interesting parts.


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Alex and David are starting to sound like fanboys...

hurrah!  LOLWink
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Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

 
Ermm Should I do a similar one for prog metal?


Please do.

...Anyway, Leftoverture & Depois Do Fim are not my bag. Voted the former.

Didn't enjoy any of the Echolyn streams, so I never bothered investigating any further (they're in serious need of a new albumcoverdesigner).

I consider the 17 other albums atleast ok/good, and many of them wonderful.
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Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:


Sorry Peter.  There's bad prog rock out there, and all of us have different opinions on what that is. 

Had I made a "best of" poll with the same entries, it would turn into a SEbtP vs CttE poll...and who wants another one of those?
 
As you acknowledge, the notion of 'bad' is subjective. To me, prog metal is 'bad,' but that's purely subjective as well. many love it, and more power to 'em.
 
My main problem here is with your use of 'worst' (as opposed to something like "least liked"), which would seem to imply that we were choosing from a list of 'bad" albums.
 
My other major issue is that the Top 20 list is one of the site's features, put there by those who design and run the site, to serve others in their quest for well-liked prog. It seems an odd thing for PA's own reviewers and collabs (site "representatives,' remember) to 'attack' in this fashion.
 
 
BTW, I bear you no ill will for it -- it just seems like a mistake, to me, or something which we should not focus on in this manner.
 
I hope you can see my point of view. Smile
 
For the record, though I haven't heard all of those albums, I do know 16 of them, and I don't regard ANY of those as even "bad" -- let alone 'worst." Ermm


Edited by Peter - March 21 2009 at 11:34
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I've just never liked Relayer all that much. Gave it several listens but overall, it just doesn't have what it takes.
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My vote goes to Nursery Cryme- I gave it two or three listens and I just don't understand why it's so regarded. 



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