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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:03
I know ELP's output from the debut to Welcome Back My Friends... All of those albums have some really good stuff, but also a lot of material that leaves me cold. Trilogy is I think their best album as a whole, the only one that's more or less good material from beginning to end. Karn Evil 9 is my favourite song from them and contains my favourite keyboard riff ever.

Camel on the other hand is a band that I have a huge soft spot for. Brilliant stuff from Mirage to Moonmadness, then downhill towards the 80s when they had a couple of very good albums in Nude and Stationary Traveller. Dust and Dreams continued on the good standards set by these albums, but on Rajaz and A Nod and a Wink they returned to the same level they last were on Moonmadness. Love both albums. And especially I love Latimer's vocal performance on both. His voice truly gained a lot of character and emotion as years went by. Definitely one of my dearest favourite bands from the prog field, if not the dearest of all.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:21
Still can't stand ELP. Still have this soft spot for Camel's two, three maybe four first. But none are among my 100 favorite bands (ELP not even in my top 1000). 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:32
Camel for sure, i never menaged to fully embrace elp. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:40
No doubt here, Camel it is.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:46
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 10:29
Blistering Barnacles, ELP losing out to Camel, I am not reading this!  Dead  Poor crimson87's joy was shortlived, it turns out. Cry  'fraid I have to agree even more now with what micky said the other day in that Genesis thread, something about easy listening.  Tongue  Not that I dislike Camel, their albums are very pleasant, though not very interesting beyond a point, and Latimer's solos are great, but I find ELP a rather obvious winner in this poll. Turns out the majority disagrees with me. Confused  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 10:43
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

Still can't stand ELP. Still have this soft spot for Camel's two, three maybe four first. But none are among my 100 favorite bands (ELP not even in my top 1000). 


Not even in the top 1000? Wow that is harsh. I can think of at least a thousand groups that ELP is better than.

I went with Camel but I like ELP equally.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 10:48
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I like a lot ELP, but Camel has "diversity" of sounds.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:38
My tastes have changed since the last poll.

I like Camel even more and ELP even less.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:39
In one interview I read with Carl Palmer, he said he thought ELP only made two good albums. I'm inclined to agree..
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:39

Cry There is something I will never understand ,why is ELP labeled as a "cold" band in this site? Their live shows were incredible and their best records send shivers down my spine. And they also created "beautiful" music like Pirates for example.

 Besides how do you come to the conclusion that Camel's music comes from the heart and ELP's not?

I know that it's all about your personal tastes but in my opinion with the exeption of some songs and "The Snow Goose" Camel is the cold one here. I don't want to sleep with symphonic prog , I have my copy of Tangerine Dream "Zeit" for that matter! ( Incredible album by the way)

 I don't have a single doubt that if Mirage was released in 1970 it would have been quite groundbreaking , but it was released 4 years later! Almost an eternity You had loads of incredible records in that period
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:48
I see I will have to write another reviewWinkLOL...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:49
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

Cry There is something I will never understand ,why is ELP labeled as a "cold" band in this site? Their live shows were incredible and their best records send shivers down my spine. And they also created "beautiful" music like Pirates for example.


 Besides how do you come to the conclusion that Camel's music comes from the heart and ELP's not?

I know that it's all about your personal tastes but in my opinion with the exeption of some songs and "The Snow Goose" Camel is the cold one here. I don't want to sleep with symphonic prog , I have my copy of Tangerine Dream "Zeit" for that matter! ( Incredible album by the way)


 I don't have a single doubt that if Mirage was released in 1970 it would have been quite groundbreaking , but it was released 4 years later! Almost an eternity You had loads of incredible records in that period


I never regarded as ELP as 'cold' as such. Plenty of their music came from the heart, I'm sure, but these bands had a differet approach to making music. Camel was about melody, and less about the 'show' ELP was more about virtuosity and interpretting classical music, and dare I say it 'showing off'

I dont object to that, in principle. Prog is about variety and trying different things musically, but for me I prefer the Camel formula. ELP were almost too patchy and inconsistent for me, and Greg Lake often tried to sing things he shouldn't have. His rendition of Jerusalem was horribly flat.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:51
Well, Andy, in my humble opinion Latimer ALWAYS tried to sing things he shouldn't have.... He even sang most of the parts when he had Richard Sinclair in the band!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:53
This is turning out very similarly to last year. Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:53
CryCry It was so beautiful while it lasted..... that 18-2CryCry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 11:58
Originally posted by crimson87 crimson87 wrote:

CryCry It was so beautiful while it lasted..... that 18-2CryCry


Well, I'm going to hold another tournament at some point this year. If ELP end up being in it, I'll support them to see how far they can get.

I'm not entirely sure which angle I'm taking this year yet though... I want to have one HUGE one instead of two smaller ones like I did last year. King Crimson ended up winning out of the two winners (Gentle Giant being the runner-up) and was proclaimed PA's favorite band of 2008. I promise you that the 2009 will be even more epic. Thumbs Up

Alot can change in a few months too. Evil Smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:14
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Well, Andy, in my humble opinion Latimer ALWAYS tried to sing things he shouldn't have.... He even sang most of the parts when he had Richard Sinclair in the band!


Agreed. Latimers voice was the weakest element in Camel, imo. In my first post I did say that I considered Lake the better singer overall. But if you're going to sing hymns, it's probably best to make sure you're able to first.. I find his performance on 'The Only Way' on Tarkus toe curling to be honest.

Lake was at his best singing heavier material, and some of the ballads he pulled off quite well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:47
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Camel, I like em' the kings of elevator prog Thumbs Up, up there with PFM LOL



never mention Came with PFM.. or PFM with elevator prog hahhaha.Heart

tasteful prog sure... but with plenty of fire and passion...




 
It would seem that this particular elevator is in free fall with all the ELP faithful trapped inside. Hang on everybody Shocked. As you fall the Camel gang are boosting the votes LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 05 2009 at 12:52
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by Sacred 22 Sacred 22 wrote:

Camel, I like em' the kings of elevator prog Thumbs Up, up there with PFM LOL



never mention Came with PFM.. or PFM with elevator prog hahhaha.Heart

tasteful prog sure... but with plenty of fire and passion...




 
It looks like this elevator is in free fall Shocked with all the ELP faithful trapped inside listening to PFM while the gang from Camel elevate the votes LOL
 
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