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angelmk
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:32 |
Camel for sure, i never menaged to fully embrace elp.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:21 |
Still can't stand ELP. Still have this soft spot for Camel's two, three maybe four first. But none are among my 100 favorite bands (ELP not even in my top 1000).
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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
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Pekka
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:03 |
I know ELP's output from the debut to Welcome Back My Friends... All of those albums have some really good stuff, but also a lot of material that leaves me cold. Trilogy is I think their best album as a whole, the only one that's more or less good material from beginning to end. Karn Evil 9 is my favourite song from them and contains my favourite keyboard riff ever.
Camel on the other hand is a band that I have a huge soft spot for. Brilliant stuff from Mirage to Moonmadness, then downhill towards the 80s when they had a couple of very good albums in Nude and Stationary Traveller. Dust and Dreams continued on the good standards set by these albums, but on Rajaz and A Nod and a Wink they returned to the same level they last were on Moonmadness. Love both albums. And especially I love Latimer's vocal performance on both. His voice truly gained a lot of character and emotion as years went by. Definitely one of my dearest favourite bands from the prog field, if not the dearest of all.
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kenethlevine
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 09:03 |
Camel is one of the most consistent, melodic, accessible and emotional prog groups ever. I even like Latimer's voice. I always felt ELP was a bloated dinosaur from the get go. So I voted Camel.
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 07:18 |
Fleetway wrote:
Camel by a mile. I dont see why all the hate for camel around these here parts.
Camel has done 14 albums of wich im in love with 12. ELP has made like 100 albums of wich 50 are turds.
That said I do like ELP alot. But only on afew albums.
Blacksword wrote:
Camel gets the vote. ELP have a superior drummer and singer (not that I generally rate Greg Lake very highly) but Camel have Andy Latimers lead guitar, flute. Pete Bardens more varied keyboard sound, and of course, most importantly, they write better songs in my personal opinion. I think they also progressed more interestingly, and survived the 70's better than ELP. |
I absolutely agree with this except that i like Andy Latimers singing. Especialy on the later albums. |
I'd certainly agree that he improved with age as a singer.
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micky
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 06:40 |
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Fleetway
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 05:16 |
Camel by a mile. I dont see why all the hate for camel around these here parts.
Camel has done 14 albums of wich im in love with 12. ELP has made like 100 albums of wich 50 are turds.
That said I do like ELP alot. But only on afew albums.
Blacksword wrote:
Camel gets the vote.
ELP have a superior drummer and singer (not that I generally rate Greg Lake very highly) but Camel have Andy Latimers lead guitar, flute. Pete Bardens more varied keyboard sound, and of course, most importantly, they write better songs in my personal opinion. I think they also progressed more interestingly, and survived the 70's better than ELP. |
I absolutely agree with this except that i like Andy Latimers singing. Especialy on the later albums.
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mono
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 05:15 |
A hundred times CAMEL
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Blacksword
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 04:24 |
Camel gets the vote.
ELP have a superior drummer and singer (not that I generally rate Greg Lake very highly) but Camel have Andy Latimers lead guitar, flute. Pete Bardens more varied keyboard sound, and of course, most importantly, they write better songs in my personal opinion. I think they also progressed more interestingly, and survived the 70's better than ELP.
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Anirml
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 04:07 |
Camel for me
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The Doctor
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 03:44 |
Camel by a mile. While I do like a lot of ELP, and agree that some of their albums should be in the top 100, they were a bit too inconsistent for me, and quite often self-indulgent. I find Camel's music to be much more emotional, without so much focus on technique over emotional content. Latimer is the man, and I don't mind his vocals really either, although I always thought that Bardens and then Sinclair were better vocalists.
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I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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martinprog77
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 03:35 |
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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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martinprog77
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 03:33 |
crimson87 wrote:
Just finished Moonmadness ,and it's a pity because I wasn't even moved by that record like I was before. It all seemed so... harmless |
maybe you should listen to ' 'the hot seat '' or ''love beach ''
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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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zbida
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 03:29 |
ELP seems to be an icon, but I rather prefer listening to the music (especially straight from the heart) than looking at the icon symbol.
Camel here.
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martinprog77
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 03:20 |
camel
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Nothing can last
there are no second chances.
Never give a day away.
Always live for today.
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Zargus
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 02:21 |
Goin with ELP here i love Camels Moongoose album but ELP got more good albums.
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tszirmay
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 01:22 |
Emerson, Latimer and Palmer ,......... oops! Terrorism again. I mean the Us vs Them thing again, really! Hey Camel is good and Elp is good, they both matter , they both deserve , they both are prog. C'mon Micky , let's both attack some sh***tier band , OK? Like , the Stones , fer example (hahahahahahaha)
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I never post anything anywhere without doing more than basic research, often in depth.
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PROGMONSTER2008
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Posted: March 05 2009 at 00:31 |
Camel easy. I'm a big fan of their debut and their albums from 1976-1981. Mirage and Snowgoose are my least fave of their first 8 albums. As for ELP, I only really like their first 3 studio albums.
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Sacred 22
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 23:33 |
Camel, I like em' the kings of
elevator prog , up there with PFM I would say ELP and Camel are the antithesis of one
another.
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RoyFairbank
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Posted: March 04 2009 at 21:27 |
Emerson Lake Palmer
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