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Points: 610 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 08 2009 at 20:33
How great was Tulls 1971. Forget about side 2 of Aqualung, which I believe to be a bit simplistic in regards to melody and Ians voice sounds a bit annoying on alot of Side 2. But Side 1 is classic Tull. Cross eyed Mary and Aqualung are pretty much classic heavy rockers with a prog touch and the 2 short gems Cheap day return and Wondring aloud, plus the 2 underrated acoustics Mother goose and Up to me. But is Side 1 better than the Life is a long song ep. We have the classic title acoustic song Life is a long song and the equally great Up the pool and Wondring again acoustics. What about the cool numbers Dr Bogenbroom and For later? So much quality from 1 band in 1 year Smile
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A great band,very close to symphonic prog,I guess.People don't seem to like Ian Anderson's voice that much,but It's what gives the band some of their charisma.I have to say,I don't like a good share of their work.The first album is awfull,and Stand Up is nice,but not prog at all.Their post mid-70's work is also generally weak compared to their gold period(but I guess that happened to almost all the great seventies prog bands).

My favs are Aqualung,Thick As a Brick(a masterpiece!)and Benefit.

Songs From the Wood is also great,but kind of overated IMO.
One of my absolute favourite songs,Witche's Promise,  was orginally released as a single in 1970 and was only album-featured in Living in the Past,years later(also a GREAT compilation).
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i love tull and have been a fan for ages..i started prog with eloy, and tull floyd and camel soon followed..so the band has a special place in my musical preferences..
i started with taab..and my favs are (in no order)
1-taab
2-broadsword
3-aqualung
4-crest of knave
5-catfish rising
6-rock island
7-stormwatch
8-too old...
9-heavy horses
10-songs from the wood
my least favs are A ..(with the exception of black sunday)
and under wraps..though i enjoy it from time to time..few worthy tracks..but so unlike tull and heavily influenced by the 80s that as a fan it leaves me disappointed..
what is so great about the band, is how much talent ian has..incredible to think that almost all the tull songs from early on were written by him..the other excellent members like the underrated martin barr, have had little creative input..like the waters dominated floyd of the wall and final cut,  
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Originally posted by Bitterblogger Bitterblogger wrote:

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Broadsword, best eighties prog I've heard to date (WARNING! Very uneducated). The first side alone is worth it. 

Stormwatch, not too bad, but SOME of those bonuses should have made it onto the final cut...

Rock Island, not my cuppa tea. Like me those "Whaler's Dues" though; how many other songs are about blowing up whales? HOW MANY ACTYRONG? HOW MANY?!?

Well, there's Don't Kill The Whale (Yes, 1978) although they don't actually sing about explosions. Would that do for at least an honorable mention?

Hmm...on the one hand, it does have more of Jon's hippy crap, but on the other hand, it does have a pretty keen guitar solo via Mr. Howe... Well, lemme put it this way: if the song ended with an explosion, symbolizing the end of the whale, then yes, it'd pretty frickin' qualify. Sadly, it don't. But nice try.
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Broadsword, best eighties prog I've heard to date (WARNING! Very uneducated). The first side alone is worth it. 

Stormwatch, not too bad, but SOME of those bonuses should have made it onto the final cut...

Rock Island, not my cuppa tea. Like me those "Whaler's Dues" though; how many other songs are about blowing up whales? HOW MANY ACTYRONG? HOW MANY?!?

Well, there's Don't Kill The Whale (Yes, 1978) although they don't actually sing about explosions. Would that do for at least an honorable mention?
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2009 at 10:02
Excellent group i have almost everything that they have released including the box sets and BTW the bonues tracks of the remastered were previously released in those box sets, the 20 years of JT and 25 years of JT, very good boxes that contains unreleased tracks, bonus live and excellent booklets.
 
 
 
 




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Talking about Extras - the Tull boxes
20 Years of Jethro Tull - 25 years of Jethro Tull
 
Has quite a few rare versions - live takes and stuff, that a true fan must LOVE.
But i dont know if they are out there anymore, i got them when they came out Tongue
 
Another thing : THE EPIC : Baker Street ..... taking out most of B-side on Minstrel in the Gallery
is great.
Right now i think M.in the G. is better than ThickaaBrick, but that may change in a few days, just to change back later.
Those are great.
 
Aqualung i cant rate, its outa catagory, its a milestone in music. !
 
Besides that to me, Songs from... To old to...Heavy H...Stormwatch, are all great albums, depends on the mood im in, witch one i prefer.   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Edited by tamijo - February 05 2009 at 07:28
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

from wiki;
Guitarist Tony Iommi, from the group Earth (who would soon change their name to Black Sabbath), took on guitar duties for a short time after the departure of Abrahams, appearing in The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (in which the group mimed "A Song For Jeffrey") in December 1968, but it turned out to be a one time only arrangement and Tony returned to Earth after the performance.



 
Thanks for that... trouble is I owe my mate a pint 'cos i told him he had to be talking horses**t.
 
 
First thought that comes to mind is... Thank (My) God they were only mimingTongue 
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from wiki;
Guitarist Tony Iommi, from the group Earth (who would soon change their name to Black Sabbath), took on guitar duties for a short time after the departure of Abrahams, appearing in The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (in which the group mimed "A Song For Jeffrey") in December 1968, but it turned out to be a one time only arrangement and Tony returned to Earth after the performance.
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 ^ true i believe, briefly in the beginning


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In case nobody's mentioned this Tull were a fantastic live band. I was lucky enough to see them twice - on the TAAB/Warchild tours. Whoever praised Martin Barre earlier is quite right - excellent guitarist.

Dunno if it's true, but a friend told me Sabbath's Tony Iommi was in the band for a very short time. If anyone can tell me if it's true or not I'd be grateful - I'm currently in Wordsworth's state of a Willing Suspension of Disbelief.
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:28
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

I've a short dick, I think, is the point.



that's all I'm saying


Okay, just as long as that's not what you're saying I'm cool.
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Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

In short, I'm a dick, I think, is the point.



that's all I'm saying
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Points: 7113 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:08

Okay, hold on, on my goofy ratings system...

This Wasn't - Solid

(Sit Down) Stand Up -Masterpiece

Benefunk - Classic 

Dracualung - Practically Perfect

Thick - Perfect (duh)

Passion - Merely mediocre (HOLY CRAP!)

Wrathchild - Solid

Menstral in the Gallery -Classic

Too Fat to Rock 'n Roll - Solid

Songs from the Hood - Classic

Overweight Horses - Practically Perfect

Stormcock - Solid

(Not to mention Bursaring Out and Livid in the Past, both of which are...Masterpieces. Duh.)

So, yes, they once, once, only once, fall to mediocre. HOWEVER, two notes...first, the concept of Passionless Play was good, as is made manifest by the masterpiece of a jam session known as the Chateau D'isaster. Secondly, in this case, YES. If any other band had pulled P.P. out of its ass, I would think more of it. 

In short, I'm a dick, I think, is the point.
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Points: 65268 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:56
but see I think all Tull from the 70s is top-notch;  can you name one mediocre Tull album pre-1980?  I can't, even TOtRnR:tYtD is fun.
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Gotta be fair; or else, ya know, half their 70's disco-very would get away with five star reviews. If I went with pure guts and emtions on some of that stuff at least...
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yeah I've noticed that, you're their biggest fan and critic



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You know, I often wonder if the reason I gave some Tull work some crap, and hold up some, in hindsight, mediocre albums, is because I DO judge the Tull at a higher level...the same seems to go with a couple of other artists. Maybe that's why I try to be hardass on ratings to compensate.
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on the average Tull album?  At least two.

 
3 stars
                      Here's the thing: sometimes appreciation of an artist is almost absolute. High points and low, blatant sellouts, uninspired contract-fulfillers and what-were-they-thinking moments, it's all of interest to the diehard fan. Not because followers are blind, deaf or gullible, but because they want to hear any new work by a band proven over years to produce music a true devotee will probably dig. And while 'Rock Island' is no shining moment, this 1989 follow-up to 'Crest of a Knave' is several miles from their worst. An honest, straightforward offering of well-recorded songs with enough minstrel rock, Anderson's pipings, and Martin Barre's icy diacritic chords and slippery circumfusions to please most fans. Neither very prog nor very pop, the record is just fine and I'm at a loss as to the cold shoulder it often receives, except perhaps because so much of the group's other work is exemplary. But it can't all be gold, guys, and 'Rock Island' stands firm as a solid affair that will get few complaints if put on unexpectedly for a room full of people.

A recurring theme of debauchery and prostitution appears in the material, as on opener 'Kissing Willie', a pop-rock chugger with a suggestive double entendre. Quasi-cowboy 'Rattlesnake Trail' keeps the pace for a dusty hike over the range and is continued in proggie 'Ears of Tin' with more outdoor adventure and a mariner's yearning. Strong echoes of the previous album in 'Undressed to Kill', an ode to a lady of the evening, and the centerpiece title is typically strong 80s Tull with a soft intro, catchy verse, rockin' midsection and tasty twin phrasing from Ian & Marty. It's followed by leviathan 'The Whaler's Dues', a powerful rock chantey of men determined to live the cetacean life. A killer cut and among this period JT's best, finishing with the Andalusian warmth of 'Strange Avenues'.

Nothing to run out and grab but if your itch for all things Tull has been bothering you and you're curious, find it used and I don't think you'll end up using it as a coaster. At least I hope not.
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Broadsword, best eighties prog I've heard to date (WARNING! Very uneducated). The first side alone is worth it. 

Stormwatch, not too bad, but SOME of those bonuses should have made it onto the final cut...

Rock Island, not my cuppa tea. Like me those "Whaler's Dues" though; how many other songs are about blowing up whales? HOW MANY ACTYRONG? HOW MANY?!?



Edited by The Whistler - February 05 2009 at 02:27
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