About Jethro Tull
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Topic: About Jethro Tull
Posted By: Jaja Macca
Subject: About Jethro Tull
Date Posted: December 02 2008 at 21:02
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Hi, friends.
Despite the resume on Prog Archives, I would like to know your opinion about this wonderful Prog Band.
When and your feelings when you heard them at the first time. Your favorite albuns and music. Favorites members. Worst albums etc.
I think that there will be a lot of good and inteligent answers here.
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Posted By: Jaja Macca
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 00:52
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From My Top 6 Prog bands, JT was the last that I knew. But I love them in the present moment that I discovered them.
They have two sides very different but both Great!!! The Electric and The acoustic.
When they put a Heavy electric sound they make it wonderful. Barre and the other musicians make a really good stuff and never exagerate with distorcions. Everithing always in a good taste.
But their acoustic/folk side is marvellous. Anderson and Barre are sensational with their acoustic guitar.
And what a wonderful composer is Mr. Anderson. There are few songs that I deslike in all their records. A special mention to his Flute work. Sometimes I fell myself in the Medieval age
 My favorite album is Aqualung, but I love the trilogy SFTW, HH and STORMWATCH.
The weak albums are UW, RTB and DOT.COm
Jethro Tul is my number 3 on my Top Prog Ranking -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 01:35
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gotta love the Tull |
Posted By: Petrovsk Mizinski
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 02:10
^No you don't
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 07:31
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I hate Jethro Tull. ------------- |
Posted By: Sunny In Jeddah
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:15
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I'm actually just now hearing Jethro Tull for the first time
I downloaded their Christmas Album, I'm enjoying it so far
Then again I've always been a fan of good folk music, Nick Drake and that ------------- 
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:31
..... To Jaja Macca: Do you really think Roots to Branches weak??? I mean it's their proggiest effort since Heavy Horses! A lot of new influences, very diverse. Wounded, Old and Treacherous is one my fave songs from Tull. Here's my fave albums list with my fave song of each: #1 A Passion Play (Both Parts are faves) #2 Thick as a Brick (Part 1) #3 Minstrel in the Gallery (Title track and Baker St. Muse) #4 Songs from the Wood and Roots to Branches(title track and Cup of Wonder, from Roots, Wounded,Old and Treacherous) #5 This Was and Stand Up (Cat's Squirrel and Sweet Dream(bonus)) #6 Aqualung (Hymn 43) #7 'A' (Crossfire) #8 Heavy Horses (Journey Man) #9 Stormwatch (Something's on the Move) #10 Crest of a Knave (Jump Start) The rest of the albums kind of meh, from the list I enjoy all of them. Fave member: John Evans, love his hammond work TAAB and I'm always shocked with his moog playing on APP. |
HughesJB4 wrote:Posted By: Sunny In Jeddah
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:38
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Am I the only person who thought Jethro Tull was a person for the longest time? -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 10:44
 Jethro Tull was a person. He was an English agriculturalist born in 1674. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Gentlegiantprog
Date Posted: December 03 2008 at 18:23
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I absolutely love Jethro Tull. Every day since the summer I listen to either TAAB or APP in their intirity and 90% of the music I ever listen to is Tull at the minute. I'm listening to Too Old To Rock N Roll right now, and often fall asleep listening to Quizz Kid. I also burnt Benefit and Stand Up onto my ps3 so as to listen to Tull over computer games. Both Orion and Sea Lion are the only songs on my Ipod to go over 100 plays and I only bought one this year. Also from May to July I used to excesrise to the entire of Bursting out every day or two days and I lost about two stone, so I love them for that as well. I feel bad though, calling them my favourite band because I don't own Rock Island, Catfish Rising the Christmas album or This Was (becasue I'm a consumerist, collector whore at heart) but the quality of their outout is so high that I cant help myself. ------------- Let the maps of war be drawn ! 
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: December 13 2008 at 05:11
Good on ya for asking the same questions about so many great prog bands!  My favorite JT album is 'Song for the Wood' (1977), although parts of 'Minstrel in the Gallery' (1975) are so fine! Have to say Ian Anderson (everything!), Martin Barre (guitars) and Barriemore Barlow (drums) are my favorite members of the band at the time of SFTW. When Eddie Jobson joined in 1980, he would become another one of my favorite JT members... |
Posted By: Leftoverture
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 09:50
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Good on ya for asking the same questions about so many great prog bands! My favorite JT album is 'Song for the Wood' (1977), although parts of 'Minstrel in the Gallery' (1975) are so fine! Have to say Ian Anderson (everything!), Martin Barre (guitars) and Barriemore Barlow (drums) are my favorite members of the band at the time of SFTW. When Eddie Jobson joined in 1980, he would become another one of my favorite JT members...[/QUOTE] was just listening to Minstrel yesterday. my ? is does anyone have the re-issues and are they worth it with the extras? if so which ones are the best? Tull rules!
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:15
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I've always loved Jethro Tull. My favorite would have to be Thick As a Brick. It's the first thing I ever heard from them, and it's just absolutely beautiful. I also own vinyl of Songs from the Wood, Stormwatch, and Benefit. I like them all, but Benefit is probably my favorite of the three, or maybe songs from the wood. I thought a passion play was great, though not near to Thick as a Brick(obviously you can see where the comparison comes in.)
I've also always thought the first album was great (Song for Jeffrey is just awesome). And even though I like Aqualung, I've always felt it was a weaker album. I don't know if it's the overplaying of the song or what, but I just never liked it that much compared to the others.
My favorites in the band are obviously Ian Anderson, John Evans, and John Glascock (we all miss him a lot, and they were never the same after those few tracks on Stormwatch)
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:18
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I still hate Jethro Tull. That`s why I wrote their bio here on PA. Can`t stand them.
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:22
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I love Tull, but always preferred their folkier moments - hence Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses, and Broadsword & The Beast stand out for me, together with the condensed version of Thick as a Brick on the live LP, Bursting Out. Favourite has to be Anderson, given that he is the soul & inspiration of the band. Favourite moment when he asks whether band member "gave it a good shake" after a pee break on the live album. Fans should also check out Anderson playing a momentous flute part on Balackmore's Nights' Play Minstrel Play. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org Now also broadcasting on www.progzilla.com Every Saturday, 4.00 p.m. UK time! |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:22
| What is it you don't like about them? Not because I have a problem with it, but just because I'm wondering. I know a lot of people that really despise them for some reason |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:24
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Don't make the mistake of judging them by "Locomotive Breath" or "Bungle in the Jungle." It would be just as unfair to judge Genesis by "Illegal Alien" or "Misunderstanding." Jethro Tull's genius lies in epics like "Thick as a Brick" or "Stand Up." There's a reason they are giants of prog rock but one must dig a little deeper than what's served up on classic rock FM radio to find the gold mine. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:27
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Look up the word sarcasm. I`M JUST KIDDING MAN! If you read the bio I wrote here in their section it will be become blatantly obvious to you that I love the band and happened to have seen them live more times than I can count. Jees. Can`t we joke around bit here?
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Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:31
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:35
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That`s OK. They`re currently recording a new album but I`m not sure of the release date. All the members are involved in separate projects so the have to coordinate their individual schedules.
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Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: February 02 2009 at 13:43
| Wow, you talking abot one of the most intristing , challenging and inovative bands ever from progressive music. One of my fav for sure. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 01:48
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They're...okay. And I'd better stop there, since I do intend to go to sleep at some point tonight. andthickasabrickwasprobablythegreatestprogalbumevernototmentionthatthetullwasoneofthemostintelligentandinventivebandsofthe70sandcontinuestobeoneofthemostcapablebandsoftodaythereisaidit ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 02:42
Yeah. He invented the seed drill, which I understood looked a bit like a giant flute...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Jethro_Tull_seed_drill_%281752%29.png">
 ... until I saw this.  ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: TheCaptain
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:03
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I love them. I think they're one of the most accessible bands on PA outside of proto-prog and prog-related. This Was is my favorite album with a blues influence.
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Posted By: Leftoverture
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 09:36
| so are the remasters w/ bonus tracks worth it for the really good albums? I guess vibrations would know... |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:26
Not even in my top 1000...  ------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: AlexUC
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:27
------------- This is not my beautiful house... |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 10:43
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 18:10
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Next to Yes & Gentle Giant, Tull are my No.3 fav. A song very close to my heart has always been One Brown Mouse. ------------- My Doc Told Me I Have Doggie Head. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 18:17
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the bonus cuts are absolutely worth it, some are so good they should been on the original releases IMO, plus it gives you a bigger picture of the material they were working on at a certain period |
Posted By: himtroy
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 18:53
| The live version of "My God" that you can find all over the internet is absolutely incredible. I believe its at The Isle of Wight |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 20:45
| JT, good little band there for a few years. Stand Up, Benefit, Aqualung, TAAB -- what's not to like? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 03 2009 at 21:24
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What I really appreciate about Tull is there consistent quality. Of the albums I've heard I only dislike Under Wraps, and really enjoy their 'lesser' work like Stormwatch, Knave, Broadsword, and Rock Island..is there another prog band that has survived and thrived for as long and as brilliantly as they have? I can't think of one. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 19:52
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I agree 100% with you Ata.....[ if I may be presumptuous enough to abbreviate you ]. It's hard to pinpoint any other band that has been so prolific. Ian Anderson is assuming the status of a living legend imo. Generally, as you say, the quality and consistency of their output has been high. We also tend to overlook Martin Barre a bit imo. How many guitarists have stayed with a band for this long when it's not recognised as 'his' band. His style also adds to the bands distinctive sound.
I admire the fact that after all this time they are still touring and playing a vast array of both their earlier and later material, despite the effect that the ravages of time are having on IAs vocal cords. TULL actually excited my interest in progressive music . I used to stay up late listening to ' underground ' radio stations [ there weren't many here in Aus. ] in the hope of catching ' Witch's Promise', which I found quite fascinating and mystical at the time [ It still remains a favourite tune of mine ]. My favourite albums are those through to ' Minstrel...', with a smattering of those up until the present . I'm also one of the the rarer variety of fan who thinks that ' APP ' is one of their best works. I guess there's no accounting for peoples' tastes. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 19:56
| ^well I can name Zappa... |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 20:03
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yeah but he's been dead for over 15 years |
Posted By: jammun
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 21:51
must...not...post...obvious...response...
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 22:10
 So? I mean, he may not have "survived", but still he released much more albums than Tull, and I think that makes it quite in the same league of consistency as Tull, and BTW, Tull hasn't released anything particulary new since 1999(not counting the Christmas album), so there's a 5 year difference? |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: February 04 2009 at 22:16
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Tull's videos are also clever and rocking. . .even when they're guest artists, like on Rock and Roll Circus. Gotta love the droll wit of Mr. Anderson, as well. I'll get in a plug for a rather obscure folk-like number: One White Duck. |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 00:04
Tull is more about great songs rather than great albums. Plenty of great outtakes and singles, which quite often are better than songs on albums. Some albums are soundtracks, some albums are more commercial with concepts, some albums are great. If I want to hear true quality Tull songs from 1974, I'll listen to the 7 bonus tracks and also queen and country, skating away, solitaire. If you wanted to rate Tull of 1974 from the original Warchild soundtrack, then you'd be missing out on most of the best songs(bonus tracks) imo. I'm rating the band on the great songs they can write and record in their natural style each year. Whether they are bonus tracks or not, doesn't matter. If they choose to write some some cheesy commercial songs for a soundtrack or for a concept album then that doesn't bother me if they have plenty of quality bonus tracks. If I want to listen to Tull from 1971 I'll usually listen to Side 1 of Aqualung and then the last 7 songs on Living in the past. I'm not fazed by concepts, I just want to hear great tunes and I know Tull are a better band than Side 2 of Aqualung and some songs on Warchild and they prove it with close to 20 songs in 1974 and over 20 songs in 1971. I just choose the best tunes and consider the other commercial tunes to be songs which Ian would think are basic but designed to please the simpler listeners  . So we have 1971 and 1974 covered. 2 very good years in the studio, although the 2 albums don't quite say that. I also love the remasters SFTW, Heavy horses, Stormwatch, A, Broadsword, Benefit, Stand up. Not to mention TAAB. I'm also found of several songs on Dotcom, Catfish, Roots, Crest, This was. ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 00:06
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yeah the Warchild extras are great, 'Paradise Steakhouse' one of my favorites |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 00:19
Agree. I also love glory row, sealion 2, saturation, rainbow blues. There's not much on the original warchild album that match these 5 songs imo ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 00:27
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well my impression was that it started as a real concept record and kinda got cut up into pieces, so that remaster was a revelation. I agree that many of the bonus cuts are excellent and shouold heave been on the original releases, i.e. Stormwatch |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:01
Yeah warchild, stormwatch, stand up, benefit and broadsword are the best when it comes to bonus tracks
Would have been nice if Broadword had the other version of jackalynn and also the song motoreyes. I think Heavy horses could have had Bluesinstrumental also.
http://raylomus.com/Broadsword_and_the_Beast1982/MOTOREYESfull.mp3 - http://raylomus.com/Broadsword_and_the_Beast1982/MOTOREYESfull.mp3
http://raylomus.com/Broadsword_and_the_Beast1982/JACKALYNNfull.mp3 - http://raylomus.com/Broadsword_and_the_Beast1982/JACKALYNNfull.mp3
http://raylomus.com/Heavy_Horses1978/BLUESINSTRUMENTALfull.mp3 - http://raylomus.com/Heavy_Horses1978/BLUESINSTRUMENTALfull.mp3 ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:07
Ha! Got what I wanted. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:22
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^ I finally do like Broadsword even if it's a bit digital-sounding, 'Clasp' and 'Watching Me Watching You' especially good..also very pleased with Rock Island and Stormy |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:27
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Broadsword, best eighties prog I've heard to date (WARNING! Very uneducated). The first side alone is worth it. Stormwatch, not too bad, but SOME of those bonuses should have made it onto the final cut... Rock Island, not my cuppa tea. Like me those "Whaler's Dues" though; how many other songs are about blowing up whales? HOW MANY ACTYRONG? HOW MANY?!? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:38
on the average Tull album? At least two. Here's the thing: sometimes appreciation of an artist is almost absolute. High points and low, blatant sellouts, uninspired contract-fulfillers and what-were-they-thinking moments, it's all of interest to the diehard fan. Not because followers are blind, deaf or gullible, but because they want to hear any new work by a band proven over years to produce music a true devotee will probably dig. And while 'Rock Island' is no shining moment, this 1989 follow-up to 'Crest of a Knave' is several miles from their worst. An honest, straightforward offering of well-recorded songs with enough minstrel rock, Anderson's pipings, and Martin Barre's icy diacritic chords and slippery circumfusions to please most fans. Neither very prog nor very pop, the record is just fine and I'm at a loss as to the cold shoulder it often receives, except perhaps because so much of the group's other work is exemplary. But it can't all be gold, guys, and 'Rock Island' stands firm as a solid affair that will get few complaints if put on unexpectedly for a room full of people. A recurring theme of debauchery and prostitution appears in the material, as on opener 'Kissing Willie', a pop-rock chugger with a suggestive double entendre. Quasi-cowboy 'Rattlesnake Trail' keeps the pace for a dusty hike over the range and is continued in proggie 'Ears of Tin' with more outdoor adventure and a mariner's yearning. Strong echoes of the previous album in 'Undressed to Kill', an ode to a lady of the evening, and the centerpiece title is typically strong 80s Tull with a soft intro, catchy verse, rockin' midsection and tasty twin phrasing from Ian & Marty. It's followed by leviathan 'The Whaler's Dues', a powerful rock chantey of men determined to live the cetacean life. A killer cut and among this period JT's best, finishing with the Andalusian warmth of 'Strange Avenues'. Nothing to run out and grab but if your itch for all things Tull has been bothering you and you're curious, find it used and I don't think you'll end up using it as a coaster. At least I hope not. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:46
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You know, I often wonder if the reason I gave some Tull work some crap, and hold up some, in hindsight, mediocre albums, is because I DO judge the Tull at a higher level...the same seems to go with a couple of other artists. Maybe that's why I try to be hardass on ratings to compensate.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:49
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yeah I've noticed that, you're their biggest fan and critic |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:51
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Gotta be fair; or else, ya know, half their 70's disco-very would get away with five star reviews. If I went with pure guts and emtions on some of that stuff at least...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 02:56
| but see I think all Tull from the 70s is top-notch; can you name one mediocre Tull album pre-1980? I can't, even TOtRnR:tYtD is fun. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:08
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Okay, hold on, on my goofy ratings system... This Wasn't - Solid (Sit Down) Stand Up -Masterpiece Benefunk - Classic Dracualung - Practically Perfect Thick - Perfect (duh) Passion - Merely mediocre (HOLY CRAP!) Wrathchild - Solid Menstral in the Gallery -Classic Too Fat to Rock 'n Roll - Solid Songs from the Hood - Classic Overweight Horses - Practically Perfect Stormcock - Solid (Not to mention Bursaring Out and Livid in the Past, both of which are...Masterpieces. Duh.) So, yes, they once, once, only once, fall to mediocre. HOWEVER, two notes...first, the concept of Passionless Play was good, as is made manifest by the masterpiece of a jam session known as the Chateau D'isaster. Secondly, in this case, YES. If any other band had pulled P.P. out of its ass, I would think more of it. In short, I'm a dick, I think, is the point. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:15
that's all I'm saying |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:28
Okay, just as long as that's not what you're saying I'm cool. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:37
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In case nobody's mentioned this Tull were a fantastic live band. I was lucky enough to see them twice - on the TAAB/Warchild tours. Whoever praised Martin Barre earlier is quite right - excellent guitarist. Dunno if it's true, but a friend told me Sabbath's Tony Iommi was in the band for a very short time. If anyone can tell me if it's true or not I'd be grateful - I'm currently in Wordsworth's state of a Willing Suspension of Disbelief.------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:47
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^ true i believe, briefly in the beginning |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 03:49
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from wiki; Guitarist http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Iommi - Tony Iommi , from the group Earth (who would soon change their name to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Sabbath - Black Sabbath ), took on guitar duties for a short time after the departure of Abrahams, appearing in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rolling_Stones_Rock_and_Roll_Circus - The Rolling Stones Rock and Roll Circus (in which the group mimed "A Song For Jeffrey") in December 1968, but it turned out to be a one time only arrangement and Tony returned to Earth after the performance. |
Posted By: el dingo
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 04:02
Thanks for that... trouble is I owe my mate a pint 'cos i told him he had to be talking horses**t.
First thought that comes to mind is... Thank (My) God they were only miming  ------------- It's not that I can't find worth in anything, it's just that I can't find worth in enough. |
Posted By: tamijo
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 07:27
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Talking about Extras - the Tull boxes
20 Years of Jethro Tull - 25 years of Jethro Tull
Has quite a few rare versions - live takes and stuff, that a true fan must LOVE.
But i dont know if they are out there anymore, i got them when they came out
Another thing : THE EPIC : Baker Street ..... taking out most of B-side on Minstrel in the Gallery
is great.
Right now i think M.in the G. is better than ThickaaBrick, but that may change in a few days, just to change back later.
Those are great.
Aqualung i cant rate, its outa catagory, its a milestone in music. !
Besides that to me, Songs from... To old to...Heavy H...Stormwatch, are all great albums, depends on the mood im in, witch one i prefer.
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Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 10:02
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Excellent group i have almost everything that they have released including the box sets and BTW the bonues tracks of the remastered were previously released in those box sets, the 20 years of JT and 25 years of JT, very good boxes that contains unreleased tracks, bonus live and excellent booklets.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 13:30
Well, there's Don't Kill The Whale (Yes, 1978) although they don't actually sing about explosions. Would that do for at least an honorable mention?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 05 2009 at 23:28
Hmm...on the one hand, it does have more of Jon's hippy crap, but on the other hand, it does have a pretty keen guitar solo via Mr. Howe... Well, lemme put it this way: if the song ended with an explosion, symbolizing the end of the whale, then yes, it'd pretty frickin' qualify. Sadly, it don't. But nice try. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: mobby
Date Posted: February 06 2009 at 04:06
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i love tull and have been a fan for ages..i started prog with eloy, and tull floyd and camel soon followed..so the band has a special place in my musical preferences..
i started with taab..and my favs are (in no order)
1-taab
2-broadsword
3-aqualung
4-crest of knave
5-catfish rising
6-rock island
7-stormwatch
8-too old...
9-heavy horses
10-songs from the wood
my least favs are A ..(with the exception of black sunday)
and under wraps..though i enjoy it from time to time..few worthy tracks..but so unlike tull and heavily influenced by the 80s that as a fan it leaves me disappointed..
what is so great about the band, is how much talent ian has..incredible to think that almost all the tull songs from early on were written by him..the other excellent members like the underrated martin barr, have had little creative input..like the waters dominated floyd of the wall and final cut,
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Posted By: Gustavo Froes
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 13:51
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A great band,very close to symphonic prog,I guess.People don't seem to like Ian Anderson's voice that much,but It's what gives the band some of their charisma.I have to say,I don't like a good share of their work.The first album is awfull,and Stand Up is nice,but not prog at all.Their post mid-70's work is also generally weak compared to their gold period(but I guess that happened to almost all the great seventies prog bands). My favs are Aqualung,Thick As a Brick(a masterpiece!)and Benefit. Songs From the Wood is also great,but kind of overated IMO. One of my absolute favourite songs,Witche's Promise, was orginally released as a single in 1970 and was only album-featured in Living in the Past,years later(also a GREAT compilation). |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 08 2009 at 20:33
How great was Tulls 1971. Forget about side 2 of Aqualung, which I believe to be a bit simplistic in regards to melody and Ians voice sounds a bit annoying on alot of Side 2. But Side 1 is classic Tull. Cross eyed Mary and Aqualung are pretty much classic heavy rockers with a prog touch and the 2 short gems Cheap day return and Wondring aloud, plus the 2 underrated acoustics Mother goose and Up to me. But is Side 1 better than the Life is a long song ep. We have the classic title acoustic song Life is a long song and the equally great Up the pool and Wondring again acoustics. What about the cool numbers Dr Bogenbroom and For later? So much quality from 1 band in 1 year  ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: Joe Rockhead
Date Posted: February 09 2009 at 13:58
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Jethro Tull got me hooked with Cross Eyed Mary. My favourite songs are the latter, Wond'ring Again, Thick As A Brick ( Side 1 ). The Third Hoorah, and Minstrell In The Gallery. This is my short list as I have all of their music. Ian Anderson is a genius even if he is a bit extravagant.. Their early period ( Living In The Past ) was I feel their finest music or their "Peak". Too bad John Evans faded away album by album. ------------- J Rockhead |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: February 09 2009 at 18:41
| Agree about John Evan. His fade started early, as the John Evan Band was the original name. |
Posted By: Drummerboy
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 10:00
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One thing which really sets them apart is how they have continued to make music which both has their trademark sound, but has moved with the times for 40 years now. They have aged very gracefully in my opinion by embracing world music sounds to complement their folk-leaning side. I lost track of them for a while, but enjoy RTB, etc. for what it is; may not gain many new fans, but has kept the old ones (at least this one) on board.
Do not forget, Aqualung is what put them over the top in the US, and was the thinking person's heavy rock album. But, when Thick as a Brick came out, it was completely new ground being broken. In its own way Songs from the Wood was also a revelation. Finally, Tull has always been great live, Ian really knows how to put on a show!
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Posted By: Leftoverture
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 11:32
| okay my post about listening to Minsterl got me listening to it real close and at about 4 or 5 minutes into the title song there is a riff which some metal band stole. I think its a black metal band like Emperor or satyricon..maybe Darkthrone can anyone help with this. I just want to know so the next time my "metal only" friends talk sh*t about prog and Tull I can one up them |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 13:09
Who is this Jethro Tull guy anyway? 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 14:52
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He`s left over. Right now my favourite Tull album is jtull.com. The only Tull album with a female vocalist.
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Posted By: LinusW
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:20
Most played, but absolutely not my favourite band. I absolutely adored them initially, but nowadays I just don't get the same kick out of their music, and find many of the albums kind of uneven. Still, a number of extraordinary songs  |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 15:39
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Wait for the next album man !
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Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 10 2009 at 20:49
Very underrated album. It may be a bit long but there are some real gems on this album and the outtake 'It all trickles down' is probably better than half the songs on the album. Adding the outtake, you'll find a strong 40 minutes worth of music among the 60 minutes. One of the better rock sessions in the last 25 years imo ------------- Jazz/Classical Rock(70's style prog/fusion). Lots of prog keys and melodies(all original ideas) http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/vigilante2008 |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:14
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:24
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:38
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I`m suprised that none of you guys have mentioned Bursting Out. Killer live album witha wicked Barimore Barloow drum solo on the instrumental Conundrum which incidently has a couple of meanings : An intricate problem or a riddle or joke whose answer contains a pun. Snce it`s an instrumental track hard to say what the intended meaning is supposed to be but I would go with the latter.
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Posted By: Drummerboy
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 10:49
| Another overlooked one is Broadsword. Apparently much more popular in Europe than the Americas. Upon reflection, it may be his goodbye to the Tull as they had been, and the turning point toward a lighter, more mature style, in keeping with their advancing years. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 13 2009 at 12:05
| A real overlooked Tull album is 'A' as well as the awesome Roots to Branches which brings back the Prog roots in a perfect state. |
Posted By: EnderEd
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 12:14
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My love for Tull has changed over the years -- I appreciate their art much more today than I did 20 years ago. I used to be a die-hard "only the pre-WarChild" stuff is worth posterity. But now my favorites include "The Flying Dutchman" from Stormwatch and "The Pine Marten's Jig" from 'A', which makes me stop what I'm doing to listen every time it plays.
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Posted By: Borris
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 15:44
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I have loved Jethro Tull for a long time. I first heard Aqualung and Thick as a Brick when it was released. The cover was amazing, funny & silly, that was cover art used to full effect. My favourites are Stand Up: I've never taken to This Was, but this album has fantastic songs and a real charm. Aqualung: Title track is amazing as well as the accoustic numbers, a classic album. With this album a totally unique voice had unveiled itself. Thick as a Brick: What can I say, very English, quirky, poetic, musically engaging, cynical, funny. Popular albums don't sound this idiosyncratic anymore. Song from the Wood: A newly forged folk tradition. Spritly fresh a nice dash of Paganism. I love it. Heavy Horses: A more earthy follow up. But again, what an excellent collection of thematically consistent songs. Makes me realise that one on the main things Tull had going for them, on top of their excellent musicianship was engaging, well written, thought provoking songs. Stormwatch: Home is a completely beautiful song, the rest of the album is good too. Broadsword and the Beast: a bit of an end of an era, doesn't really give us anything too new, but good songs. Crest of a Knave: enter ZZ Top and Dire Straits influence, a good album though. Jump Start is a killer track, cool that Tull is exploring new territory. Roots to Branches: Moody, evocative album, maybe the most mature album to date. Christmas Album: This one probably doesn't get on too many peoples top list, but a few years back I started up a thing with Christmas music, this gives me a nice warm feeling & is an excellent ode to Christmas time. Sentimental perhaps but not without insight and a few barbs. A really impressive catalogue and a wonderful individual voice, great songs, great music, very English, they have enriched my life for sure. |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:09
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I reckon if I took my fave 5 songs from every remaster, I think 2 or 3 songs from each cd would be bonus tracks, this is assuming the following songs were also included on the remasters to give us even more bonus tracks
This was-Blues for the 18th
Aqualung-For later, Life is a long song(remix), Up the pool, Wond'ring again, Dr Bogenbroom, Nursie, Locomotive breath(MU version)
Warchild-Bungle in the jungle(remix)
Heavy horses-Blues instrumental
Broadsword-Motoyeres, Jackalynn(full unplugged version), Crew nights, Commons brawl, The curse, No step, Drive on the young side of life, Lights out
Rock island-Man of principal, Hard liner
Catfish rising-Silver river turning, Truck stop runner, I don't want to be me, Piece of cake, Rosa on the factory floor
Dotcom-It all trickles down
Would be nice if Broadsword was a double cd remaster and some of the drum tracks were remixed to get a nice sound and consistency through the whole 26 songs. Would be nice if the drums were also remixed in Under wraps, Crest and Rock island in the same manner
here's some examples of good and bad drums on those remasters
broadsword
good-too many too, seal driver, flying colours
bad-beastie, jackalyn, pussy willow
under wraps(none of the drums are really good because they are way too tinny sounding)
potentially good-radio free moscow, nobodys car, paparazzi
bad-heat, lap of luxury, under wraps 1
crest
good-the waking edge
bad-raising steam, steel monkey
rock island
good-kissing willie
bad-another christmas song
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:41
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I have a theory about the Jethro Tull and here is the theory as is it is: Jethro Tull was thin at the beginning, much much more interesting the beginning of the middle and much less interesting after that. That is the theory that I have and is as such that it is. On a more seriouser note, "A" kind of marked the period after which I got much less interested. |
Posted By: PROGMONSTER2008
Date Posted: February 14 2009 at 16:58
Is that Anne Elkes theory? Cough Cough lol
I really like 'A' though
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 08:14
| For me after A, Tull started putting out merely good but non-essential albums rather than great ones. Still I have and like both Rock Island and Crest Of A Knave. |
Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 09:44
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^don't you like Catfish Rising? I find it to be in the style of those 2, of course you should know that too. It's my favorite of the 3...
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Posted By: 30761760
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 17:02
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You definatly can't beat early tull. Aqualung and minstral in the gallery have to be up there as all time great albams. Also, thick as a brick, essentialy a peetake of concept albams (wakeman) turned out to be one of the all time great concept albams in it's own right. The only blip was passion play. I brought it, lisened to it once and reilised why it was sl*gged off. it has a couple of good tracks but 'The hare who lost his specticals' encompaces all that can go wrong in prog.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 17:08
Actually haven't tried that one yet. Shame on me.  Around these parts some folks practice noodling wherein they catch catfish by getting them to go after their bare hand and yank them out of the water without a hook. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noodling - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noodling I was pondering how this practice could have got started and I can only imagine someone dropped something in the creek and while trying to retrieve it, got their hand engulfed by a catfish, yanked it out, and said, "hey, free food". Probably fried it up real good. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 23:41
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In terms of identity , a friend of mine , who wasn't much into music way back then, used to call them DESMOND TRULL - not that sure why he was a friend now to be frank , but another mate and I still sometimes refer to them as Desmond Trull. Anyway............guess you had to be there !
' Catfish Rising' I don't think is too bad [but the subject matter should best avoid the frying pan unless starvation is an issue for you] and I like ' Roots to Branches' and I'm not talking about broccoli here or basil for that matter.. It has a lot to recommend it imo. ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: Borris
Date Posted: February 15 2009 at 23:51
I disagree, the video of "the hare who lost his spectacles" is my favourite Tull video and one of my all time favourite rock videos. It is fabulously pagan, warped and crazy theatricality par excellence.
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Posted By: 30761760
Date Posted: February 16 2009 at 14:15
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But you can't deny that it was the self indulgent. The video is surreal but not excellent. It is also so far removed from the rest of tulls otherwise excellent material. It feels like a bad amatur dramatics performance rather than a rock video.
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: February 16 2009 at 15:23
A "couple" of good tracks? Two out of three? I like it, including the silly bit. The hair who lost his testicles or whatever that was... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 04:53
| For me, the best Tull albums came from the Barriemore Barlow years. But that's because I'm a drummer! |
Posted By: Drummerboy
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 07:45
| Regarding Barlow, apparently after leaving Tull (where I agree he was a mainstay of their "classic" lineup) he was asked to join Camel, but just could not play at the level required and was not accepted. And then, he left music for good and went into the consturction trade, I heard. Too bad. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 10:11
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 10:35
Construction trade??????????????? Camel?????????????????????????????????????????????? ------------- |
Posted By: Alberto Muñoz
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 11:21
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 13:13
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Hey I`m not getting angry just trying to set the record straight. Think about it though. Why would one of the most the talented drummers in rock give up music to become a construction worker? Painter, botanist, monk maybe but construction worker? Just trying to set the record straight. Not angry.
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Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: February 17 2009 at 13:18
Maybe the culprit is that Rock Tree book, which showed how bands came together from disparate places, and where members went to, etc.
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