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alanerc
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Joined: December 20 2007
Location: Mexico
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 00:24 |
Moore is more like and artistic guy, he ALWAYS uses samples form movies, TV show, interviews... Listen their solo albums, they're for rainy days
not very good, but they have something, something...
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CrowmaKey
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Joined: March 02 2008
Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 07:19 |
I was listening to Graveyard Mountain Home in work last night. I think that it's a quality piece of work. By turns it's both dark (knowing the story helps here obviously),catchy and uplifting.
Crucially, the whole package is a fairly unique one,as far as I can tell.
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Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...
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Dean
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Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout
Joined: May 13 2007
Location: Europe
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Points: 37575
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Posted: March 03 2008 at 07:41 |
Rudess won me over with "An Evening with..." but I have to admit owning more Derek Sherinian solo albums, then I've always liked showy guitar albums
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What?
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The Pessimist
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: March 04 2008 at 16:25 |
CrowmaKey wrote:
Kevin Moore all day long. In my opinion he is a much more tasteful player - he never over egged the pudding in the way that Rudess can sometimes do. From time to time Rudess' tone is hateful - he *almost* manages to ruin Six Degrees with his treacley sweet effects!
In terms of songwriting I think DT miss the influence of Moore - his lyrics for DT were brilliant and his contributions to the musical side of things were also from the top drawer.
Also,looked at what he did for Fates Warning when he guested on their recordings - genius!
OSI and Chroma Key, too, are great projects.
Yup - Kevin Moore for the win!
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I completely agree with the songwriting side of things. I mean, DT have never seemed to interest me during the Rudess era. It just seemed to get too overcomplex, not very diverse and relatively tuneless! Whereas in the Moore era... Now you're talking. You have Learning to Live (my all time favourite DT song), Metropolis Pt. 1, Voices, Erotomania and The Killing Hand. All memorable DT songs, and I have a hunch that it was all because of Moore. He also plays his keyboards LIKE A KEYBOARD, not like some kind of shredding device (example The Glass Prison) unlike Mr Rudess.
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Statutory-Mike
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Joined: February 15 2008
Location: Long Island
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Points: 3737
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Posted: March 04 2008 at 17:09 |
The man's facial expression in this picture alone wins it for me
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progrules
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Joined: September 14 2007
Location: Netherlands
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Points: 958
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Posted: March 06 2008 at 10:38 |
Both are great musicians but I think Rudess is more of a true artist. I witnessed this myself in Amsterdam where he did the opening minutes of Octavarium in an unbelievable way. Shivers down the spine ! Second advantage for him is he also excelled in LTE.
Kevin Moore instead went to Fates Warning after leaving DT. Need I say more ? Despite all these points in favour of Rudess I still believe Moore is a great keyboardplayer.
But I voted for Rudess (if there was still doubt).
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CrowmaKey
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Location: Dublin, Ireland
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Posted: March 07 2008 at 06:07 |
Progrules - You're not into Fates Warning then?
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Somewhere out of a memory of lighted streets on quiet nights...
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Queen By-Tor
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Joined: September 13 2006
Location: Xanadu
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Posted: January 23 2009 at 16:50 |
THREAD NECROMANCY
I voted Moore - Rudess may be a better technical player, but Moore created an atmosphere (which have made his resulting albums (Chroma Key, OSI) awesome) and DT have been missing that terribly since he left.
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The Pessimist
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Joined: June 13 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 3834
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Posted: January 23 2009 at 17:06 |
The Pessimist wrote:
CrowmaKey wrote:
Kevin Moore all day long. In my opinion he is a much more tasteful player - he never over egged the pudding in the way that Rudess can sometimes do. From time to time Rudess' tone is hateful - he *almost* manages to ruin Six Degrees with his treacley sweet effects!
In terms of songwriting I think DT miss the influence of Moore - his lyrics for DT were brilliant and his contributions to the musical side of things were also from the top drawer.
Also,looked at what he did for Fates Warning when he guested on their recordings - genius!
OSI and Chroma Key, too, are great projects.
Yup - Kevin Moore for the win!
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I completely agree with the songwriting side of things. I mean, DT have never seemed to interest me during the Rudess era. It just seemed to get too overcomplex, not very diverse and relatively tuneless! Whereas in the Moore era... Now you're talking. You have Learning to Live (my all time favourite DT song), Metropolis Pt. 1, Voices, Erotomania and The Killing Hand. All memorable DT songs, and I have a hunch that it was all because of Moore. He also plays his keyboards LIKE A KEYBOARD, not like some kind of shredding device (example The Glass Prison) unlike Mr Rudess.
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My God this was long ago... Can someone delete this please?
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"Market value is irrelevant to intrinsic value."
Arnold Schoenberg
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Petrovsk Mizinski
Prog Reviewer
Joined: December 24 2007
Location: Ukraine
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Points: 25210
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Posted: January 23 2009 at 17:21 |
King By-Tor wrote:
THREAD NECROMANCY
I voted Moore - Rudess may be a better technical player, but Moore created an atmosphere (which have made his resulting albums (Chroma Key, OSI) awesome) and DT have been missing that terribly since he left.
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Wow, epic bump man
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The Quiet One
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Joined: January 16 2008
Location: Argentina
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Points: 15745
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Posted: January 23 2009 at 17:34 |
^indeed!
I have one album from each, Images and Octavarium, and it's clear for me from these 2, Kevin wins easily..
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b_olariu
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Joined: March 02 2007
Location: Romania
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Points: 5532
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 03:05 |
Jordan Rudess for me, he's work with DT, LTE and his solo career apeal more to me than Kevin's one. Never the less Kevin's prestation with DT is excellent , no doubt, but his solo career is rather unintristing for me and even boring most of the time, just check out his work with Chroma key, totaly not for me and damn boring.
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MovingPictures07
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Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Beasty Heart
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Points: 32181
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 06:18 |
Rudess, easily.
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toolis
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Joined: April 26 2006
Location: MacedoniaGreece
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 06:22 |
huh?
Uli Jon Roth or Mattias Jabs?
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-music is like pornography...
sometimes amateurs turn us on, even more...
-sometimes you are the pigeon and sometimes you are the statue...
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b_olariu
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Location: Romania
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 07:23 |
toolis wrote:
huh?
Uli Jon Roth or Mattias Jabs? |
What have these two guitar players with other two, am I missing something here
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horsewithteeth11
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Joined: January 09 2008
Location: Kentucky
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Points: 24598
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 07:31 |
Ruddess for sure, but Moore can still play better than most keyboardists with his face.
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Equality 7-2521
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 11 2005
Location: Philly
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Points: 15784
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 07:56 |
I feel like I see this poll every other week.
For nth time Moore by miles and miles and miles and miles
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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Queen By-Tor
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Joined: September 13 2006
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 11:03 |
Equality 7-2521 wrote:
I feel like I see this poll every other week.
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it's probably been the same poll, this one is from, like, 4 years ago
Edited by King By-Tor - January 26 2009 at 11:03
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Equality 7-2521
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Location: Philly
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Posted: January 26 2009 at 15:26 |
King By-Tor wrote:
it's probably been the same poll, this one is from, like, 4 years ago
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Haha. Started 7 months before i started posting, just missed the original round of posting.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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steve j
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Joined: September 30 2007
Location: United Kingdom
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Points: 164
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Posted: January 30 2009 at 18:18 |
The poll results looks real close, I think that's a good outcome for two particularly good musicians.
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