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Henry Plainview
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Posted: January 06 2009 at 20:43 |
stonebeard wrote:
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OH SNAP!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 03:29 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Another thing that goes against them is the Rockpommel's Land album artwork. a lot of people say it's a Roger Dean copycat who painted it. As for Nektar vs Grobschnitt. Grobschnitt hands down no contest. not even going to get into that one. Best Solar Music for me is Warburg '78. It can be heard on The History of grobschnitt Vol. 1. You should check out some of the performances in '79 when it was turning into a pop Solar Music. Really. Sort of disco Solar Music.
I don't really see Hugues' point when he says they started to sound like Yes & Genesis on Jumbo & Rockpommel's land. is he on bad drugs or did he have a bad day at the office? |
First day back in the new year, but not a bad day, and no bad drugs . Personally I find that Grobschnitt sounded like the two UK groups on those albums, and I believe I'm not the only one.
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let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword
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Grobsch
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 05:18 |
This topic is exactly to help the band become famous and also try explain why so few people remember the german bands... Here in Brazil all my progressive friends agree Grobschnitt is one of the best band, but I started to like progressive because a friend of mime introduced some bands and one of the first was Grobschnitt. So, really Grobschnitt was one of the first progressive band I heard... but I'm 39 years old... My question is: why younger fans do not know more about Grobschnitt? It's our fault... we need to introduce to the young people better bands... Grobschnitt is around 1000% better than all neo progressive bands.. we need to introduce them to the young fans... Grobschnitt, P.F.M, Banco, Le Orme, Eloy, Samla Mammas Manna, Magma, Amon Duul II, Faust, and many other 70's bands are by far better than the any 80's and 90's band but seems young fans do not care about them... If you are fan of a young band, you HAVE to start listen to their fathers... Pink Floyd and Genesis are the best? OK, but just an inch before we find Grobschnitt, P.F.M, Eloy and others from Germany and Italy... After saying that... let me add Jumbo to my cdplayer...
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Grobsch
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 05:27 |
Jumbo is GREAT!!! Symphonic?? A little bit more than Ballermann... but hey, there is the humors, the kraut, the space rock... people.. people... the guitar;;; and Eroc... no one is better than Eroc... how about Mist? simple and brilliant.. Which is the best keyboard player for me?? Nice question... is Vittorio Nocenzi... YES.. Nocenzi... Music must be beautiful, full of passion and not extravagant... Bill Bruford is GREAT.. Jan Akkerman, too... and Lupo, Mist, Eroc...
At least SIX five stars albums and FIVE great musicians.. what else more this band needs to become one of the best???
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 10:23 |
Grobsch wrote:
This topic is exactly to help the band become famous and also try explain why so few people remember the german bands...
Here in Brazil all my progressive friends agree Grobschnitt is one of the best band, but I started to like progressive because a friend of mime introduced some bands and one of the first was Grobschnitt. So, really Grobschnitt was one of the first progressive band I heard... but I'm 39 years old...
My question is: why younger fans do not know more about Grobschnitt?
It's our fault... we need to introduce to the young people better bands... Grobschnitt is around 1000% better than all neo progressive bands.. we need to introduce them to the young fans...
Grobschnitt, P.F.M, Banco, Le Orme, Eloy, Samla Mammas Manna, Magma, Amon Duul II, Faust, and many other 70's bands are by far better than the any 80's and 90's band but seems young fans do not care about them... If you are fan of a young band, you HAVE to start listen to their fathers...
Pink Floyd and Genesis are the best? OK, but just an inch before we find Grobschnitt, P.F.M, Eloy and others from Germany and Italy...
After saying that... let me add Jumbo to my cdplayer...
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Flavio, my son I see your point. I`m going to paint up some placards that say Kinder Of die Werld you must listen to Grobschnitt, PFM, Banco and Amon Duul II and march up and down in front of Music Plus ( which is the French Canadian equivanent of MTV ) here in Montreal until they all are listening to these bands on their ipods. Just kidding . But seriously, if I took after MY father`s musical tastes I`d be listening to The Band Of The Grenadier Guards, The Pipes & Drums Of The Black Watch or Connie Francis. You have to understand that these young kids are bombarded by the internet with all this new music and just like us we were when we were young they have rebelious streaks in them and they just don`t want to listen to all that "old crap". I think to a certain extent I listened to all this wild music to be different but the real difference was that I was actually different! Believe me it was lonely sometimes with my Amon Duul II, Grobschnitt and Floh de Cologne records. I don`t have children myself but if I did I think that the only way I could introduce them to this music we`re talking about is to play it while they`re around and let them make a decision. I`m sitting in a friend`s office right now listening to Amon Guru on the computer speakers and I`ve already had a few funny looks from a couple of the young ladies who work here. Believe me I`m on your side and I`ve had to put up with other people`s attitude towards my music all my life. All we can hope for is that it will reach some young ears in this age of the internet.
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Grobsch
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 10:33 |
"You have to understand that these young kids are bombarded by the
internet with all this new music and just like us we were when we were
young they have rebelious streaks in them and they just don`t want to
listen to all that "old crap"." Yes, when I was a boy I listened to Echo and the Bunnymen, The Cure, U2, some brazilian bands, but a friend introduced me to the music ;;; starting with Jethro Tull, Grobschnitt, Genesis... We have to make these young guys know about music, too...
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Alberto Muņoz
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 10:45 |
Great band i have to hear again his albums.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 10:53 |
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 10:59 |
Wow! That`s original Grobs*h*t. I would have never thought of that myself. That`s just as original as Thick As A Prick. I`m going to start working on getting THURSAFLOKKURINN added myself. I`ve already listened to some of their stuff have you checked them out Mr. Lemming?????
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Alucard
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 11:24 |
Grobsch wrote:
I have this photo and it is interesting because I think Tony was not part of Grobschnitt in the beginning.. but perhaps I'm wrong.. I know their first name was Crew in the end of the 60's... |
... Tony MM was not part of the band as a musician (also he later became) but right from the start as a roadie & friend, and if one band treated roadies as "fulltime" members it was Grobschnitt, they had all smaller or bigger (in the case of Tony MM) apearances in the stage show and were in one way or the other mentioned on the cover, Ballermann, another roadie even gave the title to a record and I remember one of the roadies Porneaux (?) walking across the stage with a double weenie sticking out of his trousers....speaking about German humour!
Edited by Alucard - January 07 2009 at 11:32
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
"Hey there! Rotter's Club!
Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 11:31 |
Grobsch wrote:
For me Grobschnitt is at least one of the ten best bands of all time... but they are not in most lists... WHY? They are the best in live concerts... they are great musicians... they have an unique sound... they have a huge discography... they were one of the most famous Germany band during 70's...
Why Grobschnitt isn't consider the best band ever? Which is the main reason why Grobschnitt isn't consider the best band?
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Who is Grobschnitt?
And there you have it.
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Alucard
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 11:43 |
Grobsch wrote:
I read in some place - I don't remember anymore - that Grobschnitt was the name of a novelist... Anyone has Grobschnitt 2008?
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1.nope, the first bandname was Kapelle Elias Grobschnitt shortened to Grobschnitt for the first record (apprently the label found the name too long, for sure the label manager didn't knew Italian Prog if he found that too long...) , but the compositions on the first recortd are attributed to Elias Grobschnitt on the record and could have lead to the idea that Elias Grobschnitt was a real person
2. I have the Grobschnitt 2008 CD, you can buy it at the concerts or online
Edited by Alucard - January 07 2009 at 11:45
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
"Hey there! Rotter's Club!
Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:38 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Wow! That`s original Grobs*h*t. I would have never thought of that myself. That`s just as original as Thick As A Prick. I`m going to start working on getting THURSAFLOKKURINN added myself. I`ve already listened to some of their stuff have you checked them out Mr. Lemming?????
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Thank you Vibrationbaby (never thought I'd ever get the chance to type that) No, I have not heard the aforementioned Thursaflokkurinn, but have attempted to get one of their enthusiasts to describe the phenomenon to me, with no result (alas) Perhaps you could perform this task yourself, on behalf of the individual (Einsetumadur) my post was addressed to ? Let's cut to the chase, What do they sound like dammit.....?
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:52 |
OK first I have to say that is one sexy Kangaroo you have there . I can`t highlight it here on this computer but just punch the band name in on you tube and there`s a really good video there which was recorded last year.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 12:55 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
OK first I have to say that is one sexy Kangaroo you have there. I can`t highlight it here on this computer but just punch the band name in on you tube and there`s a really good video there which was recorded last year.
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Yes, I like to think of him as the Australian Centrefold. Promise to check out the vid and thanks for the info. (even though we are both probably guilty of going way off topic here)
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Vibrationbaby
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 13:00 |
Him? You can also check out their myspace www.myspace.com/thursaflokkur.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: January 07 2009 at 13:11 |
Vibrationbaby wrote:
Him? You can also check out their myspace www.myspace.com/thursaflokkur.
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Erm, thought so, unless those objects south of the waist are just localised puppy fat ?.....(Might have to change the piccy now methinks as your response was puzzling to say the least )
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Grobsch
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 05:35 |
"the first bandname was Kapelle Elias Grobschnitt shortened to Grobschnitt for the first record" But during the 60's, Eroc, Lupo and Wildschwein had a band called Crew Blues Session... The interesting about Grobschnitt career is know the reason they spent three years to release the first album...
Edited by Grobsch - January 08 2009 at 05:36
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Alucard
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 06:47 |
I am not a Grobschnitt specialist, maybe you find the answer on their website:
.if you don't find the answer , I'll see the band in concert in two weeks and I will ask Stefan 'Wildschwein ' Danielak on your behalf....
Edited by Alucard - January 08 2009 at 06:56
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Tadpoles keep screaming in my ear
"Hey there! Rotter's Club!
Explain the meaning of this song and share it"
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Moogtron III
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Posted: January 08 2009 at 08:26 |
fuxi wrote:
I've always wanted to ask the same question about Kenso, whom I revere. THEIR problem must be that they aren't from Belgium! |
Maybe they should have had a number one album in Belgium, like Genesis did in 1971. Now that is the key to success
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