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Poll Question: Rush vs Led Zeppelin
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:44
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

What about my post constituted fanboyism? Yes, I'm a fanboy, but I think my response was pretty objective
 
When you say "it's a matter of taste", subjective wins!, you cacht my pointWink

Just respond to the arguement
 
No, in this time no, i always respond the topics but with a die hard, better is silenceTongueWink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:45
Ermm... Confused


no... you missed my point
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:47
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Ermm... Confused


no... you missed my point
 
well... maybe you do not explain so well...Big smile




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:50


I explained it just fine.


In a poll where preference is in question it shouldn't matter who influenced who and who came first.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:53
..........Exclamation




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 19:54
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume.

Do they have to do one?? please what a bland argument you do...LOL


No they do not HAVE to do a LZ cover. But when a band like Rush comes out with an album of cover songs from bands that they said had influenced them in their youth; it is an important observation that there is an absence of LZ. Especially when it seems that a lot of people think that with out Zepplin there would be no Rush.
 
Please Zach, listen to their first albums, Rush, Fly By Night, Caress of Steel and 2112, if you hear right, you can even look (if you can look to the music Tongue) the Led Zepp influences, they are very clear like crystal, or if you do not mind i can put examples of these albums to see the Zepp's influences on rush early output.
 
So, when  i said earlier, since A Farewell to Kings, Rush is out of Zepp's influence. 

I never once said that LZ had no influence on Rush, because, like you so clearly pointed out they do. What I was merely suggesting was that the influence Zeppelin had on Rush was fleeting, you admit only 4 out of all their studio albums can be "accredited" to influences from Zeppelin, and me being an 80's Rush fanboy I draw no similariteis between them after AFTK. On this point we agree, and have always agreed on since my fist post, "...not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume." I can understand ones argument that those first four albums are some of Rush's finest moments, but like I said, I'm and 80's Rush fan and I'd be the first to dispute that claim.

People here have a nasty habit of not reading ones entire post to fully understand what was trying to be said. I hope now we can put this silly squabling behind us and leave it to the polls.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:02
Zach: agree with you thoughts!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:06
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:



I explained it just fine.


In a poll where preference is in question it shouldn't matter who influenced who and who came first.
 
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Mainly because Picard and Data rock.  But also that was amusing about the whole facepalm thing.  LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:07
I need another facepalm for his agreeance with Zach when i was on the same page as that to begin with
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:17
Now this is a tough poll.  In some ways I wanted to vote for Rush.  They've had a longer and more varied career than Zep, have written their share of great songs, are respected as musicians, and so forth. 
 
But the mighty Zep also wrote their share of great songs, including one that is so great and so familiar that most of us just about get ill when we hear it, and are/were respected as musicians.
 
In the end I go for Zep. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:18
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 20:21
Don't really listen to Led Zep anymore, and the few times I've tried to listen to them in recent times, it just hasn't interested me anymore to be honest.

I can listen to Rush, and feel genuinely excited by it and don't feel the need to turn it off halfway through a song.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 21:49
This is disturbing! The band that started as a Zeppelin-lite, is beating the knights of rock rock rock?  

I'm not a big fan of some of Zep's output (like II, and IV for the most part), but damn if I, III, Phys, Houses, Presence aren't great albums.  The only Rush album I could maybe put on par with Zep is 2112.  At least in terms of something interesting, and worth many repeated listens.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 08:57
HA! not even all the best rush albums put toghter as one comes close to the worst Zeppelin album.... IMO.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 20 2008 at 09:34
The 70's albums of Rush are the best...
 
The Zepp albums ALL are great!!!!!




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 21 2008 at 05:09
I can't remember if I posted here in this thread yet.

Anyway, I voted for Rush:P
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2008 at 00:12
I vote Rush. I have seen both live more than once and have all both band's recordings. Zeppelin was brilliant for their first 5 years then they were pretty much done. You could hear Page going downhill with his drug problem starting with Houses Of The Holy, and Physical Graffiti was disappointing and uneven. Although Rush owes a lot to Zeppelin, they were (are) more consistent, professional, and innovative.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2008 at 22:49

I'm really surprised at Rush's popularity in a forum like this.  They're a vaery talented band but it seems like some folks have them in their top 3 of all time.  I voted Zep who I think are quite good but somewhat overrated.  I like to make mix/greatest hits CDs and I'd say that if you limit it to one CD per band (say, 60-75 mintes), Led Zep stacks up against anyone.  But man, they sure put out a lot of noisy, repetitive dreck. 

Rush? I only really like 2 of their songs (Subdivisions & Fly By Night).  They have lots that aren't bad but for me they're barely prog and their best songs are nowhere near as good as Zep or many other bands.  As a Canadian however,  I'm still kind of pleased at their popularity.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2008 at 07:45
Originally posted by Abrawang Abrawang wrote:

I'm really surprised at Rush's popularity in a forum like this.  They're a vaery talented band but it seems like some folks have them in their top 3 of all time.


Well it's a prog site so it shouldn't surprise you at all. A great prog band vs. the greatest band of all time. Zeppelin for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2008 at 07:53
Originally posted by Swan Song Swan Song wrote:

Originally posted by Abrawang Abrawang wrote:

I'm really surprised at Rush's popularity in a forum like this.  They're a vaery talented band but it seems like some folks have them in their top 3 of all time.


Well it's a prog site so it shouldn't surprise you at all. A decent prog band vs. the greatest band of all time. Rolling Stones  for me.


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