Rush vs Led Zeppelin

Now this is a tough poll.  In some ways I wanted to vote for Rush.  They've had a longer and more varied career than Zep, have written their share of great songs, are respected as musicians, and so forth. 

King By-Tor wrote: I explained it just fine. In a poll where preference is in question it shouldn't matter who influenced who and who came first.

Alberto Muñoz wrote: zachfive wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: zachfive wrote: Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume. Do they have to do one?? please what a bland argument you do... No they do not HAVE to do a LZ cover. But when a band like Rush comes out with an album of cover songs from bands that they said had influenced them in their youth; it is an important observation that there is an absence of LZ. Especially when it seems that a lot of people think that with out Zepplin there would be no Rush.   Please Zach, listen to their first albums, Rush, Fly By Night, Caress of Steel and 2112, if you hear right, you can even look (if you can look to the music ) the Led Zepp influences, they are very clear like crystal, or if you do not mind i can put examples of these albums to see the Zepp's influences on rush early output.   So, when  i said earlier, since A Farewell to Kings, Rush is out of Zepp's influence.

I never once said that LZ had no influence on Rush, because, like you so clearly pointed out they do. What I was merely suggesting was that the influence Zeppelin had on Rush was fleeting, you admit only 4 out of all their studio albums can be "accredited" to influences from Zeppelin, and me being an 80's Rush fanboy I draw no similariteis between them after AFTK. On this point we agree, and have always agreed on since my fist post, "...not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume." I can understand ones argument that those first four albums are some of Rush's finest moments, but like I said, I'm and 80's Rush fan and I'd be the first to dispute that claim.

People here have a nasty habit of not reading ones entire post to fully understand what was trying to be said. I hope now we can put this silly squabling behind us and leave it to the polls.

I explained it just fine.


In a poll where preference is in question it shouldn't matter who influenced who and who came first.

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no... you missed my point

What about my post constituted fanboyism? Yes, I'm a fanboy, but I think my response was pretty objective


Just respond to the arguement

Alberto Muñoz wrote: [ David as far as i know you have to listen as many concerts of Zepp as i, and you know the 1969 tour has many moments that rarely were playing in the studio.   Like for example the As Long as a Have You medley.

yes, they were almost an oldies tribute band till they had enough original material 

Alberto Muñoz wrote: King By-Tor wrote: ...that doesn't mean anything...   No, actually it means a lot my friend, Rush were inspired by the zepps to a larger extent, the instruments, the brand of heavyness in Rush music, owe much to Zepp's, of course Rush were not going to be a Zep clonesm, so they progressed, but the influences are there. No, we're talking preference - it still means nothing. Take both bands, eliminate influence and who came first and THEN answer the question they were also influenced by Cream and Yes along with many others...   Of course but i you hear carefully the first album and the Fly by Night album, they owe very much to the Led Zepps Yes, but that was their second album, what about the other 17? They soon ditched that sound. And yes, I do know the stories of people hearing "Working Man" on the radio and asking about the new Zeppelin album so I guess Muddy Waters is better than Hendrix?   Waters make raw basic blues that influece a lot in Hendrix play and Hendrix never deny that origin. Hendrix actually improve the influected blues origin with other types of music like jazz and rock of course. So the apprentice is better than the master? Is not the question who is better or not. it's a matter of taste. yeah. Read my first responce.

Atavachron wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote: Atavachron wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote:   In Before and After  the main riff and the middle riif in the Lifeson solo are power riffs that Zeppelin pioneering in Out of The Tiles,  and the main riff of the powerful Bring it on Home for example.    'Out on the Tiles' actually features distinct Yardbirds riffs, and 'Bring it on Home' was a standard blues rhythm     and Zepp Amplificate those riffs and played like no one before... correct David as far as i know you have to listen as many concerts of Zepp as i, and you know the 1969 tour has many moments that rarely were playing in the studio.   Like for example the As Long as a Have You medley.

Alberto Muñoz wrote: Atavachron wrote: Alberto Muñoz wrote:   In Before and After  the main riff and the middle riif in the Lifeson solo are power riffs that Zeppelin pioneering in Out of The Tiles,  and the main riff of the powerful Bring it on Home for example.    'Out on the Tiles' actually features distinct Yardbirds riffs, and 'Bring it on Home' was a standard blues rhythm     and Zepp Amplificate those riffs and played like no one before...

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