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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 16:12
Originally posted by Isengard Isengard wrote:

Since the inaugural Rush album is basically a Zeppelin retread................my vote is for Led Zeppelin. 

 


Funny, I voted for Rush based on their multitude of albums that came after the first one.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 16:14
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True, but Rush was influenced by Zeppelin, so I'll go with the original.     I am a Rush fan as well.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 16:22
...that doesn't mean anything...


they were also influenced by Cream and Yes along with many others...


so I guess Muddy Waters is better than Hendrix?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 16:23
Originally posted by Isengard Isengard wrote:

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True, but Rush was influenced by Zeppelin, so I'll go with the original.     I am a Rush fan as well.


While the influence on the first album was significant (an understatement, really), I feel Rush progressed beyond the influence - even as early as 2112 and certainly on Farewell I don't think of Zeppelin at all. 

Certainly Zep's debut along with Cream were instrumental influences for Geddy and Alex, and Neil was doing Who covers for the gig he had before Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:09
Rush, but with compliments to Led Zeppelin.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:17
Led Zeppelin, Rush started like a Led Zep wanabees... any doubts, listen to the first albumWink




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:23
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Led Zeppelin, Rush started like a Led Zep wanabees... any doubts, listen to the first albumWink


What about the 17 studio albums that came after that?  Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:24
Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

...that doesn't mean anything...
 
No, actually it means a lot my friend, Rush were inspired by the zepps to a larger extent, the instruments, the brand of heavyness in Rush music, owe much to Zepp's, of course Rush were not going to be a Zep clonesm, so they progressed, but the influences are there.


they were also influenced by Cream and Yes along with many others...
 
Of course but i you hear carefully the first album and the Fly by Night album, they owe very much to the Led Zepps


so I guess Muddy Waters is better than Hendrix?
 
Waters make raw basic blues that influece a lot in Hendrix play and Hendrix never deny that origin.
Hendrix actually improve the influected blues origin with other types of music like jazz and rock of course.
 
Is not the question who is better or not.
it's a matter of taste.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:29
Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Led Zeppelin, Rush started like a Led Zep wanabees... any doubts, listen to the first albumWink


What about the 17 studio albums that came after that?  Wink
 
The influences of Led Zep in Rush i think lives until the A Farewell to Kings came.
 
In 2112 sounds hint of the heavyness of Zep, example? The Temple of Syrinx.
In 2112 sound the delicate ballad acoustic influence of Zepp  example: Tears.
 
And to clarify to all die hard Rush fans: influence is not equal to copy. ok??Wink
 
Then like they said in his first double album a first chapter is close, and a new chapter begin.
 




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:31
This is a no-brainer for me.  Much like the Rush vs. Magma poll.  Rush it is on both counts.  I've been a big fan of Rush now for close to 20 years.  I was never a big fan of Zep.  I don't think I've made much of a secret about that either.  They did two or three songs that I really like.  "Battle of Evermore" and "No Quarter" come to mind, but otherwise, I think the hype was a lot bigger than the music deserved. 
 
Yes, Rush did sound quite a bit like Zep on their first album, which is the primary reason that the first Rush albums is one of my least favorite albums by them.  Fortunately, they left that all behind them and moved on to much greater things. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:32
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Rush by far.
 
Though LZ best moments are really great..
 
Which is the prob for me with Zep, when they are good they are outstanding, when they are bad..........you can throw away about half of their songs. Rush I didnt like at first but grew into them, their albums starting from 2112 to Moving Pictures are consistently excellent and great prog, not to say that there are other great moments on the other albums....Mystic Rhythms anyone
was that just an Am augmented minor 9th i heard? nice!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:34
Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:37

I would like to point out to the OP that he made a mistake in this poll though.  And I don't think I'm the first to discover it.  Vote early, vote often!!! Wink

I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:37
They really dressed like  i do not know LOL:
 
Alex is in a "strange "  Tonguepose, don't you think?,




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:39
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume.

Do they have to do one?? please what a bland argument you do...LOL




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:42
Originally posted by ModernRocker79 ModernRocker79 wrote:

 I think Rush vs Led Zeppelin is a more interesting poll.  So who would you vote for?
More interesting hey ?  lets see how close it is around the 50 vote mark  .....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:46
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume.

Do they have to do one?? please what a bland argument you do...LOL


No they do not HAVE to do a LZ cover. But when a band like Rush comes out with an album of cover songs from bands that they said had influenced them in their youth; it is an important observation that there is an absence of LZ. Especially when it seems that a lot of people think that with out Zepplin there would be no Rush.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:46
Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by NaturalScience NaturalScience wrote:

Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Led Zeppelin, Rush started like a Led Zep wanabees... any doubts, listen to the first albumWink


What about the 17 studio albums that came after that?  Wink
 
The influences of Led Zep in Rush i think lives until the A Farewell to Kings came.
 
In 2112 sounds hint of the heavyness of Zep, example? The Temple of Syrinx.
In 2112 sound the delicate ballad acoustic influence of Zepp  example: Tears.
 
And to clarify to all die hard Rush fans: influence is not equal to copy. ok??Wink
 
Then like they said in his first double album a first chapter is close, and a new chapter begin.
 


Agree completely! 2112 was their last album to feature notable Zep influences.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:49
Rush   Yawwwnnnnnnssssssssss Rush Yawwnsssssssssss Question
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 19 2008 at 17:51
Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Originally posted by Alberto Muņoz Alberto Muņoz wrote:

Originally posted by zachfive zachfive wrote:

Individually the members of Rush are, imo, more talented musicians.So much of LZ stuff sounds the same, Rush is constantly re-inventing their style and sound. So like in the previous Beatles poll, my vote goes for Rush. And as for Zep being an influence on Rush, I'm sorry, but what Led Zep song did they cover in their Feedback album, oh thats right, none...(no Beatles cover either) not to say they didnt influence Rush but maybe not as heavily as people asume.

Do they have to do one?? please what a bland argument you do...LOL


No they do not HAVE to do a LZ cover. But when a band like Rush comes out with an album of cover songs from bands that they said had influenced them in their youth; it is an important observation that there is an absence of LZ. Especially when it seems that a lot of people think that with out Zepplin there would be no Rush.
 
Please Zach, listen to their first albums, Rush, Fly By Night, Caress of Steel and 2112, if you hear right, you can even look (if you can look to the music Tongue) the Led Zepp influences, they are very clear like crystal, or if you do not mind i can put examples of these albums to see the Zepp's influences on rush early output.
 
So, when  i said earlier, since A Farewell to Kings, Rush is out of Zepp's influence. 




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