Shameless Plug

 

I can think of one or two more comments, Mike, which I would like you to consider carefully...

 

1) Yes, I did read your first post.  I still nevertheless thought that you might be interested in seeing how I had graded the few albums from 2008, which I had heard, so I quickly knocked up an excel spreadsheet for you to comment on, if you wished.  I did this to try and be constructive and helpful, and maybe add something of value to the debate.  If I had believed beforehand that no-one would have been interested, then I wouldn't have bothered.

You see, I've literally spent months of work so that people can cast their votes comfortably at PF. So when I create a thread in a desperate attempt to get people to give it a try, maybe you can begin to understand how I feel when I see that someone simply ignores all that.

I'd be glad to know about your top 10 albums of 2008, but in this thread circumventing my website hurts my feelings - although I'm sure that that was not your intention, I can't help feeling this way.

 

2) Even if you found my scant 'data' an irrelevance, you could have at least had the common decency to acknowledge me with a simple 'thanks', or even ignored what had been a polite post.

I could say "thanks for the effort", but my heart would still be broken. I realise now that you made the post based on the thread title alone ... my apologies for not making it more clear. 

 

3) What you have basically said however, is that your opinions are not warranted, if you do not have a PF account.

Not at all. I value your opinion highly, it is simply off-topic ... you did not *vote*, you simply posted a list. I admire you for taking the time to compile it, but as honorable an effort as it may be, a year from now it will be lost in the archives of this forum ... what I'm intending to do here is to give you all a way to submit this information in a more permanent way, and taking much less time and efforts.

BTW: stonebeard started a similar thread which is for posting lists only ... your list would be in good company there.

Whilst I personally find this to be rather rude and elitist, for me, it begs a number of other questions.  As you will be aware, I have raised this issue in the abuse reporting thread, concerning whether there are/ should be areas of the general forum where as a PA member, I am not allowed to post. 

This is not a question of allowing posts or not. The real question is whether I, as the owner of Progfreak.com, are allowed to make a thread in "General Music Discussions" which is targeted at PA users who also use PF. As it turns out, I'm not ...

The answers I have received have been an unequivical 'no'.  This means that you have no authority or mandate to ring-fence any threads or sections of this site for purely PF purposes, or indeed for any other account holders only, thereby marginalising ordinary PA members.

 

I am sorry that you found my above post to be unwarranted, or an intrusion into a private members club, but its not as if I have ever been denigrating towards your website, either now, or in times past.

Neither have I been denigrating towards you. All I did was to point out that I intended this thread for people who also use PF for the purpose of generating "top albums" lists.

 

I would finally just say to you that I genuinely thought I would get a bit of a flaying from the senior team concerning my outburst, but I only received one PM which was critical of my post, but several more in support of what I said.  Please don't start making the use or otherwise of PF a divisive issue on this forum, Mike, but just accept everyone's opinions for what they are, irrespective of which medium they use.

Feel free to continue to ignore PF ... I don't mind. I'll simply ask the admins to *delete* my account.

 

Right, that's all I've got to say on this issue...I won't post in here again.