Tori Amos-Deserves to be in Prograchives

it shouldn't Rico... if people stick to discussing the pros and cons of her...  remarkable how people drop out of the discussion when you have to show something about actually knowing the artist. 

as I said... does she fit Xover or not.. .that is the question.. not whether you think she belongs here.. that takes two things.. understanding Xover..  which many here don't... and understanding her music.. which it seems many don't short of an album or two.

Avantgardehead wrote: I don't think she's prog or even prog-related, but what I think doesn't matter. I'm not a collaborator.

I'll frame a collection of your valuable insights here in these threads  for exhibit A why you aren't

I see that John Bobo Bollenberg considers her a progressive artist. If that matters to anything at all is another question entirely - he's only a reviewer after all.

Hmm, for a quick read up on Bollenberg, check the bio on "The Bollenberg Experience" added to the database not too long ago.

Bobo's main activity these days from what I gather: http://www.boborocks.be/index.php

Tori Amos review: http://www.progressiveworld.net/toriamos.html

Kinda heavily into the Symforce festival too it seems: http://www.dprp.net/concrev/2007symforce.php

Personally I have no opinion here - don't know the artist at all ;-)

Some googling lead to search results that might be of interest for evaluation purposes; which is why I posted them. Not many seeing Amos as progressive based on the results, but this Bobo dude apparently does; at least to the extent of reviewing her for a prog site. If that has any value at all is up to the evaluation team to analyze.

there is no doubt Amos is an innovative artist, she is also highly skilled beyond most popular musicians (I'd suggest her first for eval., Little Earthquakes, in addition to the albums mentioned in this thread), on the other hand there is little rock in her music (if that counts)    ..my feeling about Tori is that she is one of those artists that represents a cusp between popular and progressive, her music a kind of shadowy middle zone that is both irreverent and digestible, startling but comfortable, intelligent but unpretentious..  she's gonna be a tough call

 

Some site called Progressive World. Not one I frequent a lot - basically don't know much about it.

Atavachron wrote: there is no doubt Amos is an innovative artist, she is also highly skilled beyond most popular musicians (I'd suggest her first for eval., Little Earthquakes, in addition to the albums mentioned in this thread), on the other hand there is little rock in her music (if that counts)    ..my feeling about Tori is that she is one of those artists that represents a cusp between popular and progressive, her music a kind of shadowy middle zone that is both irreverent and digestible, startling but comfortable, intelligent but unpretentious..  she's gonna be a tough call

Avantgardehead wrote: micky wrote: Avantgardehead wrote: I don't think she's prog or even prog-related, but what I think doesn't matter. I'm not a collaborator. I'll frame a collection of your valuable insights here in these threads  for exhibit A why you aren't Not that I want to be, in the first place. And didn't we just have some big discussion on how innovation =/= prog?! You guys flip-flop like something that flip-flops a lot...

sh*t man.. you are the smart one.. the job isn't all it is cracked up to be.

as David, our resident collab sage, said so wisely ..Ms Amos is not as cut and dried as you make it out to be.. it is not an easy call.  We'll make the best call we can... but which ever way we decide..  some will be pleased.. and some will wonder what the hell we were listening to...   the nature of the job my friend.

best hands on the site 

don't be the fool though like others have if we don't accept...  we understand everyone has their notions to what belongs here.  There have to be standards and the teams do that for the site or else it would be a free for all and soon end up like allmusic.com.  As I explained above..  we are, and have to be careful in our evals.  Having my fair experience among the various teams.. it is by far the trickiest sub to manage.