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Ivan_Melgar_M 
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 Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:58 |
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I heard Boys for Pele, and only find a good voice but Adult Contemporary music with a Folkish edge.
Not Prog or related at all.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 01 2008 at 11:00 |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:53 |
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"Had me a trick and a kick and your message Well you'll never gain weight from a doughnut hole Then thought that I could decipher your message There's no one here dear No one at all And if I'm wasting all your time This time Maybe you never learned to take And if I'm hanging on to your shade I guess I'm way beyond the pale" Curious if you have tried any of her first two and what you think of either of them? Edited by Slartibartfast - June 06 2009 at 08:45 |
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:46 |
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^ which album? Just curious ... I'd recommend Under the Pink or Boys for Pele.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 10:29 |
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Won't get angry for anything, heard all that album and not ipressed, not Prog or even related at all.
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 01 2008 at 10:56 |
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UMUR
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 06:29 |
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Just for Boys for Pele she deserves to be here IMO. Have any of you critics listened to that album from start to end. I´m sure you´ll understand why Tori belongs on PA after that. Such a great and innovative artist. The Prog related catagory should definitely have a place for her. She gets my vote anytime. If you haven´t at least listened to Boys for Pele your opinions are not valuable IMO
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MikeEnRegalia
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 06:20 |
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While her addition is pondered here, I invite you all to rate and tag here albums at PF:
http://progfreak.com/Tori-Amos,_dbe,artists,_auto_7099595.xhtml |
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 06:08 |
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Wait, I get it now, he was just saying that Tori got boned at least once last year.  Edited by Slartibartfast - June 06 2009 at 08:44 |
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Chris S
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 04:58 |
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You forgot to mention To Venus and Back followed after Boys For Pele. I am unfamilar with her 2007 release but whilst Beekeeper is a concept album, I do not think it would help her addition to PA. Overall though I believe Tori Amos belongs in the archives for the aforementioned albums.
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...As I venture through the slipstream, between the viaducts in your dreams...[/COLOR] |
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Raff
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 03:13 |
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WHAT?!??   Edited by Raff - November 01 2008 at 03:14 |
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Atavachron
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 02:32 |
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she is one of the great songwriters of her time and her classical background is impeccable.. I'd say no, but it's close
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 02:16 |
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Again this argument if X why not Y?....Please, she has been suggested and rejected several times since 2006, because she has no relation with Prog.
BTW: Having concept albums is not Prog necesarilly (The Bee Gees released Odessa before almost any Prog artist made a concept album and not Prog by any means), she's an Adult Contemporary or Singer Singwritter artist...And what relation with prog is being a spritual daughter of a Prog Related artist?
Iván Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - November 01 2008 at 02:23 |
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Avantgardehead
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Posted: November 01 2008 at 01:31 |
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And then Fiona Apple! And then Shannon Wright! And then Mary Timony (AllMusic does describe her as having "prog rock" influences!)!!!!!
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http://www.last.fm/user/Avantgardian
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:57 |
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I kinda liked my idea better.
Did I read that right? Hell, I'd like to bone her myself. An an unrelated note, my old dog is named after her.  Edited by Slartibartfast - June 06 2009 at 08:44 |
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Logan
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:38 |
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Menswear: Since there was useful discussion in the following thread (and it's not locked), perhaps you should add your post to it:
Topic: I suggest Tori Amos Forum: Suggest New Bands and Artists |
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micky
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:37 |
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wasn't really familiar with her stuff until someone suggested her sometime last year and boned her. She belongs here me thinks. great stuff.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:30 |
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Maybe if you start enough Tori Amos threads someone will relent and let her in.
Edited by Slartibartfast - June 06 2009 at 08:43 |
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Menswear
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Joined: June 02 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 63 |
Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:14 |
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If Kate Bush has been accepted, why not her spiritual daughter Tori Amos? Her piano skills are lengendary and she has plenty of concept albums. Although she's not into long songs (never over 6 minutes), she excels at seperating the chapters of her stories with songs like mini-interludes. How's that for a prog-related artist? concept albums:
-Boys for Pele (1996): creepy, angry album with interludes introducing the chapters
-Scarlet's Walk (2000): a tour of America state by state, with interludes and opinions
-The Beekeeper (2005): 19 songs divided into 6 gardens with their ambience and style
-American Doll Posse (2007): full fledge concept albums, with 5 different characters with their own stories and their own personnalities
I've been pushing Tori Amos for a while and with this list, I think she deserves a place in the Prog Related category.
Enjoy a marginal, foxy lady with exceptional piano skills and a divine voice.
I Kate Bush made it, I just don't know why she's not here already?!?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:06 |
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I'd put her here. For me she really filled the void left when Kate Bush took that long long break from music.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Vompatti
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:03 |
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Didn't Frank Sinatra release concept albums as well?
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Menswear
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Posted: October 31 2008 at 18:01 |
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Tori Amos is the queen of the concept albums, she released many albums that tells storys, she even impersonate many characters in the record!
Her piano virtuosity is lengendary, although the songs are never over 6 minutes long. On the other hand, she excels at little interludes that separates the chapters or segments of the record.
Concept albums by Tori AMos:
-Boys for Pele---creepy but multi-segmentary album divided in 5 pieces
-Scarlet's Walk--a tour of America state by state and clearly identified in the booklet
-The Beekeeper--19 songs divided in 6 different garden with their own ambience and story
-American Doll Posse--full fledge concept album through 5 differents characters, with tons of material, interludes and attitude
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