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Rocktopus
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Posted: August 10 2008 at 04:54 | |||||||||
I find that a little annoying too, but that's just how it is. If I wanted to, I could play about 20 hours of electric Miles fusion-era without hearing the same track twice, and I don't have everything. That's more music than most bands here recorded in their whole career. |
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Easy Money
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Posted: August 10 2008 at 08:15 | |||||||||
The whole diccography policy (which I don't neccessariy support) does save us from even more bickering. Could you imagine all the arguing that would happen if we went through Genesis' later output and tried to decide which albums belonged and which didn't.
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micky
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Posted: August 10 2008 at 08:25 | |||||||||
exactly.. which is why I suspect M@X wanted that avoided and just said. whole discographies... so we are free to add all albums.. regardless of considering progressive nature since there is enough bickering about the artist alone without splintering it into individual albums hahaha. The reviews are where such things are judged.. and explained to people. Anyone who picks up Invisible Touch expecting SEbtP is an idiot for not looking at the reviews first hahaha. |
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darkshade
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 22:24 | |||||||||
should i start a Herbie Hancock thread? being he was mentioned a few times here and on the other thread. He has the same problem Miles has with the discography thing, except HH made rock albums early in his career (68 or 69 with Fat Albert Rotunda) and a lot of his early jazz 'hits' were given a 'rock makeover' like Watermelon Man, Maiden Voyage, Catelope Island, etc...
not to mention he's the only Miles alumni from the 60s and 70s who made progressive rock/jazz-fusion to not be here on this site. Shorter, Zawinul, McLaughlin, Williams, Corea, etc are all here, not to mention his other peers like Pat Metheny, Jaco (WR), Al Di Meola, and made waaaaayyy more progressive music than these guys did. After Miles and Larry Coryell, Herbie Hancock was the most influential and active in the jazz-fusion movement. Edited by darkshade - August 13 2008 at 22:28 |
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Logan
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Posted: August 13 2008 at 22:32 | |||||||||
Yeah, he's been suggested a couple of times in dedicated suggestion threads and many times in other threads. I agree that Hancock should be here. Some old threads for reference (all the old threads, unresponded to since before February, are locked -- part of speeding up the forums) but for reference:
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darkshade
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 05:05 | |||||||||
so since they're locked, i could just start a new thread? and perhaps quote from the older threads?
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micky
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 06:18 | |||||||||
I would say yes.... but I looked why they were locked (didn't figure the kiddies got in and sh*t all over the floor ahahaha).
they were closed because HH has been eval'd I guess.. and rejected. |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 10:13 | |||||||||
Will you start it soon? I look forward to it. Been searching for every Mwandishi-related fusion album I could find the last two years, and there's quite a few excellent ones. I found strong debuts by most his band members: Eddie Henderson (two albums actually, Realization & Inside Out with virtually the same lineup as the original Mwandishi sextet), Bennie Maupin (The Jewel in the Lotus), Julian Priester (Love, Love) Buster Williams (Pinnacle) These are are all a direct continuation of Herbie's Mwandishi project. And excellent contributions too. Looking for a couple of Charles Earland albums (Leaving This Planet & The Dynamite Brothers) featuring techno wiz Dr. Patrick Gleeson. |
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Easy Money
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 10:50 | |||||||||
I think there is at least one more Julian Preister album in that style, I can't remember the name.
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Rocktopus
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 14:03 | |||||||||
Polarization. Haven't found it yet. |
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darkshade
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 15:14 | |||||||||
With albums like this, why wouldnt HH be on this site? Fat Albert Rotunda - 1969 Mwandishi - 1970 Crossings - 1972 Sextant - 1973 Headhunters - 1973 Thrust - 1974 Man-Child - 1975 Flood - 1975 Secrets - 1976 Sunlight (with Tony Williams and Jaco Pastorius) - 1978 Monster - 1980 Mr. Hands - 1980 Magic Windows - 1981 Dis Is Da Drum - 1994 Mr. Funk - 2001 Edited by darkshade - August 14 2008 at 15:22 |
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Rocktopus
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 15:50 | |||||||||
I know, I know... there's only three real Mwandishi-sextet albums (I got four-five live-bootlegs). But some of his bandmembers made some brilliant substitutes for fans like myself, who's crazy about this period. And I'm not that much of a fan of his Headhunters/funk albums. I know its top quality stuff, but its just not my bag. Hancock is in the lineup on the Eddie Henderson albums himself, and especially Realization sounds like a natural continuation. I think of that one, Love, Love, The Jewel in the Lotus and to some extent Inside Out as Mwandishi-albums (although I guess they're not, technically speaking). Just ordered Polarization. |
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micky
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 17:37 | |||||||||
and Miles Davis is added.... great job guys that's a victory for the good guys over the evil pesilance that is using 'tags and labeling' (have I mentioned today just how much I hate that ) to determine additions, it is the prog music that counts, not a name.. not even a career......... great bio Martin
http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=3906 |
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Chris S
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 18:11 | |||||||||
Great work guys!!
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Tuzvihar
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Posted: August 14 2008 at 18:28 | |||||||||
Couldn't agree more!
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M@X
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 00:35 | |||||||||
Guys... as I already suggested in the past ... we want complete discography of each artist in PA .
Also .. can some suggest a couple of mp3s for Miles ? |
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darkshade
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 00:47 | |||||||||
wooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i can suggest many mp3s if you want. i just have to remember how to submit them. length doesnt matter right? cause he's got a lot of longies.... this is a great moment. I feel happy than I and many others fought hard for Miles' inclusion. this has been a long time coming
i have Bennie Maupin's The Jewel in the Lotus. It's phenomenal, has a lot of Mwandishi sounds, and is quite haunting actually |
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darkshade
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 00:51 | |||||||||
wow there's a lot of missing albums. I shall get to work.
Very good bio, the only thing i disagree with is that Miles' electric period really began in 67 and has been discussed to death. Also, his jazz-rock years continued into the 90s before he began making more acid jazz/hip hop albums but still glad to see him here! |
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Easy Money
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 01:30 | |||||||||
Hi Max, You will get a complete discography of Miles eventually, it's just going to take some time. I will keep adding as will many others. |
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Certif1ed
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Posted: August 15 2008 at 02:42 | |||||||||
That's exactly the same argument as the one that runs; Metallica recorded many albums that aren't Prog Metal...
I don't agree with Miles' inclusion, but I guess it's too late.
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