Iron maiden a most fantastic prog band.

TheProgtologist wrote: bluetailfly wrote: Okay, I was at the record store today and checked out the covers of the Iron Maiden albums, and, I'm sorry, but I don't see interesting music coming from a band that would agree to put out those embarrasing juvenile cover illustrations. If Iron Maiden is more than just a metal band for repressed white boys to rock to to let out frustration (and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not prog), then, I don't know, they have an image problem. They're not even good fantasy/sword and sorcery pics; but the kind of stuff I would see in bad comic books. Defend the band if you can, but part of what makes up a band is the persona they choose to project. They could be playing "South Side of the Sky" but if this is their image, I don't know, I'd I have a hard time getting past it.           Haven't you ever heard the saying "never judge a book by it's cover"?Jeez.And all thier covers are painted by Derek Riggs,and excellent artist.

Yeah, of course I've heard that. But I think their covers are approved by the band, so it is a reflection of how they see their music. So to me, they see they're music as the equivalent of B-grade horror movies, which again is fine, but it's doesn't exaclty fit the prog genre.

Okay, I was at the record store today and checked out the covers of the Iron Maiden albums, and, I'm sorry, but I don't see interesting music coming from a band that would agree to put out those embarrasing juvenile cover illustrations. If Iron Maiden is more than just a metal band for repressed white boys to rock to to let out frustration (and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not prog), then, I don't know, they have an image problem.

They're not even good fantasy/sword and sorcery pics; but the kind of stuff I would see in bad comic books. Defend the band if you can, but part of what makes up a band is the persona they choose to project. They could be playing "South Side of the Sky" but if this is their image, I don't know, I'd I have a hard time getting past it.

the Seventh Son album is quiet proggy, especially the title track is prog.

"Alexander The Great" from the Somwhere In Time album is also progressive, and it features a cool 7/4 (or 7/8?) time signature.

But im not sure if i would call them prog!?

TheProgtologist wrote: Borealis wrote: Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes. Maiden don't write I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics,so don't lump them in with those kinds of bands.Murders in the Rue Morgue(Edgar Allen Poe),Ryme of the Ancient Mariner(Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem),The Trooper(Napoleanic Wars),Powerslave(ancient Egypt),Aces High(The British RAF and the Battle of Britain),Alexander The Great(figure that one out),Phantom of the Opera(again,figure that one out),Run to the Hills(The exploitation of the American Indians),Flight of Icarus(Greek mythology),To Tame a Land(Dune). I don't consider Maiden prog,or even prog metal.They are a metal band with some proggy moments.But I grew up with them,was listening to their first album in 1980 when no one knew who the hell they were and they are a huge musical influence for me.You obviously don't like metal and are very biased in your opinion.Just by the statement of yours that I quoted above,you don't really know what you are talking about.The members of Maiden(especially Steve Harris)are highly intelligent,and probably more well read than you are.

I believe they write some really cheesy lyrics. But, that is not the point. Iron Maiden is not prog.

Borealis wrote: Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes.

Maiden don't write I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics,so don't lump them in with those kinds of bands.Murders in the Rue Morgue(Edgar Allen Poe),Ryme of the Ancient Mariner(Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem),The Trooper(Napoleanic Wars),Powerslave(ancient Egypt),Aces High(The British RAF and the Battle of Britain),Alexander The Great(figure that one out),Phantom of the Opera(again,figure that one out),Run to the Hills(The exploitation of the American Indians),Flight of Icarus(Greek mythology),To Tame a Land(Dune).

I don't consider Maiden prog,or even prog metal.They are a metal band with some proggy moments.But I grew up with them,was listening to their first album in 1980 when no one knew who the hell they were and they are a huge musical influence for me.You obviously don't like metal and are very biased in your opinion.Just by the statement of yours that I quoted above,you don't really know what you are talking about.The members of Maiden(especially Steve Harris)are highly intelligent,and probably more well read than you are.

maidenrulez wrote:   Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!

Yes.

maidenrulez wrote:  Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks,

It's not because you're doing 'epic' tracks you are prog...

maidenrulez wrote: they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too.

Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes.

maidenrulez wrote: + They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog...

Ah the number of time I herd 'if you consider X to be prog, then why not Y?'. They might have inspired some prog metal (the reason why the word metal) but those bands also took inspiration in prog bands (the reason why thw word metal). But maiden NEVER took inspiration on a prog band...

maidenrulez wrote: And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...

Everybody is going to disagree indeed. And that is quiet weird comming from a guy with a Dream Theater avatar. DT is progmetal. Iron maiden is metal. That's all.

It's not because you like a band that it's obviously a prog band...

maidenrulez wrote: Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!  Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks, they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too. + They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog... And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...

Yeah  At  last someone that thinks the as me as I do... Maiden is very progressive in some ways... Find me a NWOBHM band that has concept albums, epic, over 10 mins long tracks and INTELIGENT lyrics.. Also the Band was inspierd and isnpired many prog bands... They cant be locked up in one genre, becouse they use ideas from many other then hard'n'heavy... Oh, and btw, someone heard A TYRANNY OF SOULS?  Igot it 4 days ago and its great (Although "DEvil on a Hog is a boring). What do ya thinck of it? Is it in some way Progressive?