Iron maiden a most fantastic prog band.
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Topic: Iron maiden a most fantastic prog band.
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Subject: Iron maiden a most fantastic prog band.
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:27
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Ah well what is this guy doing? Calling Iron Maiden for a prog band? Now thats an insult!!!
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Yeah well but i do anyway because maiden have released concept albums alot of epic tracks, they have showed their abilty to compose in several diffrent generes, they can make up original and new sounding melodies, and i find their lyrics quite intelligent too. + They have inspired alot of prog metal bands. Anyways if you consider queensryche prog then you also consider maiden as prog... And perhaps everybody is going to disagree on me on this but i don't care because i am calling IRON MAIDEN THE BEST PROG METAL BAND IN THE WORLD...Replies:
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:34
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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5435&KW=Iron+Maiden - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5435&a mp;KW=Iron+Maiden http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5690&KW=Iron+Maiden - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=5690&a mp;KW=Iron+Maiden
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 07:36
| Blah what makes queensryche just so much more progressive than iron maiden? |
Posted By: geezer
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 08:51
This is the thing all metal listeners refer when they want to say metal is progressive. This makes metal progressive? Yeah, right.
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maidenrulez wrote:Posted By: MorgothSunshine
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 08:59
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Iron maiden a most fantastic NWOBHM band. ------------- For every truth even the contrary is true... 
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Posted By: Geee
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 09:06
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IMO Iron Maiden is THE METAL BAND!!
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Posted By: Dreamer
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:16
| I see what you mean, they were inspied by many prog bands. I wouldnt call them progressive though |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:18
Heavy metal with some prog-inspired parts
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:21
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^^^ Hey, welcome back ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:22
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Thanks Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:35
Yeah ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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At last someone that thinks the as me as I do... Maiden is very progressive in some ways... Find me a NWOBHM band that has concept albums, epic, over 10 mins long tracks and INTELIGENT lyrics.. Also the Band was inspierd and isnpired many prog bands... They cant be locked up in one genre, becouse they use ideas from many other then hard'n'heavy... Oh, and btw, someone heard A TYRANNY OF SOULS? Igot it 4 days ago and its great (Although "DEvil on a Hog is a boring). What do ya thinck of it? Is it in some way Progressive?Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 10:38
Damn
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I should stard looking back before posting...Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 17:24
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Yes.
It's not because you're doing 'epic' tracks you are prog...
Several different genres?! I see one : METAL... Original and new sounding melidies? I see one kind: METAL... Lyrics intelligent? Aren't they the kind of band with I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics, like most f***ing metal bands? I think yes.
Ah the number of time I herd 'if you consider X to be prog, then why not Y?'. They might have inspired some prog metal (the reason why the word metal) but those bands also took inspiration in prog bands (the reason why thw word metal). But maiden NEVER took inspiration on a prog band...
Everybody is going to disagree indeed. And that is quiet weird comming from a guy with a Dream Theater avatar. DT is progmetal. Iron maiden is metal. That's all. It's not because you like a band that it's obviously a prog band... ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: samuel.jeronimo
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 20:43
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Well i wouldn’t define Iron Maiden as a prog band, althought their importance to the prog metal movement is huge if one considers some basic aspects of their discography: - Length and construction of Songs: Most Maiden songs are quite big. The construction of themes goes from quiet and basic shapes to hard rocking stuff. You can find good examples in “Rime of the Ancient Mariner” and “Sign of the Cross”; - Concepts: Most Maiden albums seem to follow some kind of concept. In “Seventh Son of a Seventh Son” that take it farther, exploring a real solid concept;
- Artwork: Once you forget Eddy, you’ll find real good artwork in most albums. ------------- http://www.jeronimosamuel.no.sapo.pt - SAMUEL JERONIMO |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:22
Maiden don't write I'm-gonna-kill-everyone-lyrics,so don't lump them in with those kinds of bands.Murders in the Rue Morgue(Edgar Allen Poe),Ryme of the Ancient Mariner(Samuel Taylor Coleridge poem),The Trooper(Napoleanic Wars),Powerslave(ancient Egypt),Aces High(The British RAF and the Battle of Britain),Alexander The Great(figure that one out),Phantom of the Opera(again,figure that one out),Run to the Hills(The exploitation of the American Indians),Flight of Icarus(Greek mythology),To Tame a Land(Dune). I don't consider Maiden prog,or even prog metal.They are a metal band with some proggy moments.But I grew up with them,was listening to their first album in 1980 when no one knew who the hell they were and they are a huge musical influence for me.You obviously don't like metal and are very biased in your opinion.Just by the statement of yours that I quoted above,you don't really know what you are talking about.The members of Maiden(especially Steve Harris)are highly intelligent,and probably more well read than you are. -------------  |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:37
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In what ways does Iron Maiden differ from Motely Crue, because I don't know a thing about either of them and always get them mixed up. Which one is better? Is Queensryche better than both of them? Which one does "She's Got the Looks That Kill"? Are they all considered "Hair Bands"? Please enlighten me. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: samuel.jeronimo
Date Posted: May 28 2005 at 23:39
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I'm gonna see their concert in Lisbon on June 16th ------------- http://www.jeronimosamuel.no.sapo.pt - SAMUEL JERONIMO |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 10:53
IM is probably THE heavy metal (not hair metal) band. They're a lot heavier, faster and more sophisticated than Motley Crue, although take that last comment with a pich of salt. They often start their songs slowly and go ballistic in the instrumental sections, although this is obviously not always the case. They don't really change much from album to album, although they can surprise with lyrical acoustic passages. And if you take them too seriously you will never enjoy them - their lyrics are extremely cheesy, but at the same time disarming. AND Bruce Dickinson has a fantastic voice My recommendations: "Seventh Son of the Seventh Son", "Fear of the Dark", "Brave New World".
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 22:14
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I'd recommend Killers,Piece of Mind and Powerslave ------------- |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: May 29 2005 at 23:26
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Iron Maiden Prog? What is this forum coming to? ------------- 
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Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 20:56
I believe they write some really cheesy lyrics. But, that is not the point. Iron Maiden is not prog. ------------- Vive le Québec libre!... |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: May 30 2005 at 23:40
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Umm,I said I don't consider Maiden prog.And I agree with you that the lyircs are cheesy.I was just pointing out they weren't of the variety that the poster I was responding to pointed out ------------- |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 17:09
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the Seventh Son album is quiet proggy, especially the title track is prog. "Alexander The Great" from the Somwhere In Time album is also progressive, and it features a cool 7/4 (or 7/8?) time signature. But im not sure if i would call them prog!? |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 17:11
I mean; im not sure that i would add them to ProgArchives! |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 05 2005 at 20:33
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Okay, I was at the record store today and checked out the covers of the Iron Maiden albums, and, I'm sorry, but I don't see interesting music coming from a band that would agree to put out those embarrasing juvenile cover illustrations. If Iron Maiden is more than just a metal band for repressed white boys to rock to to let out frustration (and there's nothing wrong with that, but it's not prog), then, I don't know, they have an image problem. They're not even good fantasy/sword and sorcery pics; but the kind of stuff I would see in bad comic books. Defend the band if you can, but part of what makes up a band is the persona they choose to project. They could be playing "South Side of the Sky" but if this is their image, I don't know, I'd I have a hard time getting past it.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 12:03
Haven't you ever heard the saying "never judge a book by it's cover"?Jeez.And all thier covers are painted by Derek Riggs,and excellent artist. ------------- |
Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 13:19
Yeah, of course I've heard that. But I think their covers are approved by the band, so it is a reflection of how they see their music. So to me, they see they're music as the equivalent of B-grade horror movies, which again is fine, but it's doesn't exaclty fit the prog genre. ------------- "The red polygon's only desire / is to get to the blue triangle." |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: June 06 2005 at 22:20
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I have claimed in quite a few posts on this thread that I don't think in any way,shape or form that Maiden is prog.They are just a metal band,they have a proggy moment or two.I really liked them growing up,Clive Burr and Nicko McBrain I cite as drum influences.Still like them,as a matter of fact. ------------- |
Posted By: Borealis
Date Posted: June 08 2005 at 17:49
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