Judas Priest (Prog Metal)

TheProgtologist wrote: rushfan4 wrote: In case anyone is interested Judas Priest's new album Nostradamus will be released on June 17th.   They have the title track, Nostradamus, available for free download on their MySpace page.  It has that classic Judas Priest sound.  A bit of strings at the beginning and end, but mostly just straight ahead Judas Priest metal with the double guitar attack and the relentless drumming.    http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=210419730   I just bought the double cd today and just finished listening to it all the way through for the first time.It's excellent and a true return to form for JP.While it's a little more adventurous than previous material I still don't think Nostradamus is a prog metal album.

I've only heard samples and free songs. First truly interesting JP album in a while. Will probably get it quite soon.

I know it is a hard thing to post, but from what I have heard across the web, many other sources cite Sad Wings of Destiny and Sin After Sin as genre-defining albums, but genre-defining for Heavy Metal, and few disagree that after Sabbath (in timeline), probably they were the next influential band over the genre. Being so, Heavy Metal includes SWOD and Sin After Sin and heavy metal is expected to have the same elements of these albums.

Having said so, maybe people are looking to the wrong elements in some of metal bands to build an argument that they are prog-metal. Not that they aren't, but the use of wrong elements in argument can be misleading.


Edited by akin - June 17 2008 at 16:33

Just to renew this debate.  I haven't heard the new album yet, but this newly created thread does suggest that the new album is Prog Metal.  I am curious to see what others think and have to say about the new album.  It doesn't come out until tomorrow here, but I suspect that I will pick it up shortly.

In case anyone is interested Judas Priest's new album Nostradamus will be released on June 17th.

I would say no for Judas Priest's inclusion. A great band, highly influential, but to my mind not prog enough to qualify for PA.

IMO even the first three albums of Judas Priest do not justify their inclusion as prog-metal or prog-related because even considering they have some technically demanding songs in these albums, the major part of them are just good old 70's hard rock.

I hope M@x one day open his eyes and forgets about the "metal" in "Metallica" and gives his OK..

For  those who are for JP's inclusion and consider the first 3 albums as being justification for PA, does the fact that Rocka Rolla & Sin After Sin suck big time have any bearing on arguing against them. Sad Wings of Destiny ranks up there with the great metal albums released by their contemporaries Sabbath, Purple and others. But the 1st & 3rd are mostly filler.
Indeed, some reviews that I read before buying ( and later trading back) Rocka Rolla seem to consider it more blues based, in the way that the first Sabbath album was.

^ at least that's better than "un-i-ted, un-i-ted, un-ITED we stand..."

In order to keep this thread up to date, I just wanted to relay a message from Easy Livin' that the Admin team has voted to reject Judas Priest for Prog Related.