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Yorkie X 
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:44 |
To be honest I like Dream Theater I like them best when they are being themselves most and playing and writing music through their own interpretations I also prefer it when they are a little less heavy and embrace prog rock and metal with subtlety and actually some warmth in their sound which leads me to this question would you like Dream Theater more if they had much fewer Metallica influences ? I'm not a Metallica fan in the same way I am a Dream Theater fan so on some level it bugs me that whenever the DT guys seem to having trouble coming up with new ideas its lets just wake up the sandman and take him for a spin. 
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:50 |
I think I'm the minority here but.... I just like them anyways  . No vote, I don't really care what they do. Although I was a bit let down by Train of Though which is the album that people say is hit by Metallica the most. I'm sure many will disagree with my notion though.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:58 |
This implies that there's something wrong with Dream Theater. 
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:59 |
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^^^ My thoughts exactly - but better condensed
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 01:14 |
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I enjoyed their little Metallica tributes. Its the Kansas and Rush influence I can't stand.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 01:16 |
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i'd like 'em more if they sounded less like metallica and more like art bears
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Yorkie X
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ProgBagel
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 07:00 |
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I am content with them.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 07:05 |
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I would have liked them much more if they sounded exactly like (80's) Metallica.
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Darklord55
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 08:01 |
 King By-Tor wrote:
I think I'm the minority here but....
I just like them anyways . No vote, I don't really care what they do. Although I was a bit let down by Train of
Though which is the album that people say is hit by Metallica the most. I'm sure many will disagree with my
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I agree. Except Train of Thought was not a let down for me. Cheers!!
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Relayer09
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 08:52 |
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Dream Theater are fine the way they are.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 10:44 |
stonebeard wrote:
This implies that there's something wrong with Dream Theater.
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Agreed, there's nothing wrong with them as they are.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:03 |
All things considered, the Metallica and Iron Maiden influences will be inevitable. What Dream Theater can do is feed their heavy rock side with other rocking influences: from instance, Gordian Knot, At War with Self - that would be a very important source of influence for future compositions and arrangements.
Also, given Rudess's taste for atmospheric trends of rock such as post-rock and space-rock, they might give him more room to develop these influences into DT future songs. The way that Rudess incorporated the continuum and the pedal steel guitar into the DT arsenal was so awesome that I would really suggest the band (were I their manager) to bring more sounds, melodies and ideas to the band.
Kind regards.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:10 |
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I'd hardly say they're that Metallica influenced, their metal influence comes from many different places. Hell, Portnoy listens to quite a lot of metal. Hell, Constant Motion reminds me of Anthrax A LOT as just one example.
I feel that their heavy side has been extremely underrated because everyone first says "Train Of Thought" is the one to hear for heaviness. Where it's really just full of horrid chug riffs. It is the heaviest, but it is nowhere near the best example of their metal side. Hell, Glass Prison is 14 minutes of the metal side and it's one of the best things I've ever heard. That song there proves that they can do the heavier stuff as well as anyone. Just because they occasionally go about it the wrong way (quite often in the last few years) doesn't really mean that this particular aspect of their sound is a weakness.
Also, if they weren't Metallica-ing it up, they'ed probably just write heaps more power ballads, which could not be a good thing.
Edited by chemo - June 04 2008 at 11:11
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:43 |
Yeah, the power ballads can be unlistenable.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:54 |
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I do like earlier DT better but at the same time, I couldn't like DT anymore than I do already. So I vote no, the music is PERFECT for me.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:25 |
While I am not enthusiastic about Dream Theater, I think they have some fantastic albums. Since I came to prog from the metal-side, I SHALL like metal influences.. but more Metallica would for my opinion ruin Dream Theater. I have some doubt that they could ever reach the "Train of Thought"-Level with it. More Metallica would also mean less keyboards..
Conclusion: No, not more Metallica-influences. If I want progressive metal with tendencies to thrash metal, I go with Symphony X's "Paradise Lost".
Less? Maybe a bit.. but I won't vote "YES".. they are good the way they are..
Edited by Luke. J - June 04 2008 at 13:27
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:46 |
Rocktopus wrote:
I would have liked them much more if they sounded exactly like (80's) Metallica.
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My thoughts exactly  . Master of Puppets is one of my all-time favourite albums, and Ride the Lighting is not far behind. The only time I sort of like LaBrie's voice is when he sounds like James Hetfield.. Go figure.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:53 |
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I really like The Glass Prison and rather dislike the albumTrain of Thought, so it depends.
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Posted: June 04 2008 at 15:10 |
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Good posts. I would've expected much more cannibalism in this thread. Of course I side with those that said that they like DT just the way they are. But to touch the subject, as "Train of thought" is my least favorite DT album, maybe I prefer them when they are a little bit more Metalicca-free. Metalica was great when it was, well, Metallica. DT has some great songs where they use Metallica influences (the riff in Metropolis), but when they have tried to emulate their sound much closer, thise are some of the very few moments when I don't think they're the greatest ever.
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