would you like Dream Theater more if ....
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Topic: would you like Dream Theater more if ....
Posted By: Yorkie X
Subject: would you like Dream Theater more if ....
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:44
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To be honest I like Dream Theater I like them best when they are being themselves most and playing and writing music through their own interpretations I also prefer it when they are a little less heavy and embrace prog rock and metal with subtlety and actually some warmth in their sound which leads me to this question would you like Dream Theater more if they had much fewer Metallica influences ? I'm not a Metallica fan in the same way I am a Dream Theater fan so on some level it bugs me that whenever the DT guys seem to having trouble coming up with new ideas its lets just wake up the sandman and take him for a spin.  |
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:50
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I think I'm the minority here but.... I just like them anyways  . No vote, I don't really care what they do. Although I was a bit let down by Train ofThough which is the album that people say is hit by Metallica the most. I'm sure many will disagree with my notion though. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:58
This implies that there's something wrong with Dream Theater. 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 00:59
| ^^^ My thoughts exactly - but better condensed |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 01:14
| I enjoyed their little Metallica tributes. Its the Kansas and Rush influence I can't stand. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 01:16
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i'd like 'em more if they sounded less like metallica and more like art bears
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 03:22
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stonebeard wrote:Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 07:00
| I am content with them. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 07:05
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I would have liked them much more if they sounded exactly like (80's) Metallica.
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Posted By: Darklord55
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 08:01
I agree. Except Train of Thought was not a let down for me. Cheers!!
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Posted By: Relayer09
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 08:52
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Dream Theater are fine the way they are. ------------- If you lose your temper, you've lost the arguement. -Proverb |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 10:44
Agreed, there's nothing wrong with them as they are. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:03
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All things considered, the Metallica and Iron Maiden influences will be inevitable. What Dream Theater can do is feed their heavy rock side with other rocking influences: from instance, Gordian Knot, At War with Self - that would be a very important source of influence for future compositions and arrangements.
Also, given Rudess's taste for atmospheric trends of rock such as post-rock and space-rock, they might give him more room to develop these influences into DT future songs. The way that Rudess incorporated the continuum and the pedal steel guitar into the DT arsenal was so awesome that I would really suggest the band (were I their manager) to bring more sounds, melodies and ideas to the band.
Kind regards.
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Posted By: chemo
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:10
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I'd hardly say they're that Metallica influenced, their metal influence comes from many different places. Hell, Portnoy listens to quite a lot of metal. Hell, Constant Motion reminds me of Anthrax A LOT as just one example. I feel that their heavy side has been extremely underrated because everyone first says "Train Of Thought" is the one to hear for heaviness. Where it's really just full of horrid chug riffs. It is the heaviest, but it is nowhere near the best example of their metal side. Hell, Glass Prison is 14 minutes of the metal side and it's one of the best things I've ever heard. That song there proves that they can do the heavier stuff as well as anyone. Just because they occasionally go about it the wrong way (quite often in the last few years) doesn't really mean that this particular aspect of their sound is a weakness. Also, if they weren't Metallica-ing it up, they'ed probably just write heaps more power ballads, which could not be a good thing. |
Posted By: xenuwantsyou
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:43
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Yeah, the power ballads can be unlistenable. |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 11:54
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I do like earlier DT better but at the same time, I couldn't like DT anymore than I do already. So I vote no, the music is PERFECT for me. ------------- 
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Posted By: Luke. J
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:25
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While I am not enthusiastic about Dream Theater, I think they have some fantastic albums. Since I came to prog from the metal-side, I SHALL like metal influences.. but more Metallica would for my opinion ruin Dream Theater. I have some doubt that they could ever reach the "Train of Thought"-Level with it. More Metallica would also mean less keyboards..
Conclusion: No, not more Metallica-influences. If I want progressive metal with tendencies to thrash metal, I go with Symphony X's "Paradise Lost".
Less? Maybe a bit.. but I won't vote "YES".. they are good the way they are..
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:46
My thoughts exactly  . Master of Puppets is one of my all-time favourite albums, and Ride the Lighting is not far behind. The only time I sort of like LaBrie's voice is when he sounds like James Hetfield.. Go figure. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 13:53
| I really like The Glass Prison and rather dislike the albumTrain of Thought, so it depends. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 15:10
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Good posts. I would've expected much more cannibalism in this thread. Of course I side with those that said that they like DT just the way they are. But to touch the subject, as "Train of thought" is my least favorite DT album, maybe I prefer them when they are a little bit more Metalicca-free. Metalica was great when it was, well, Metallica. DT has some great songs where they use Metallica influences (the riff in Metropolis), but when they have tried to emulate their sound much closer, thise are some of the very few moments when I don't think they're the greatest ever. ------------- 
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Posted By: Queen By-Tor
Date Posted: June 04 2008 at 15:22
Says the man with himself hanging out with Dream Theater in his sig...  And I agree with all those points. I really have no problems with Train Of Thought as far as influences go, but for some reason that album just came off as very samey to me. I jus' like a little more variety. Although I haven't listened to much Metallica, so maybe I just don't know when they are trying to be Metallica. (awesome picture by the way! So jealous...) |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 01:20
Yet, they covered the entire Master of Puppets album, live on many occasions. |
Posted By: chemo
Date Posted: June 05 2008 at 07:35
Yes, they like Metallica, and they are an influence. But just because they covered an album of theirs doesn't mean that they are always trying to be Metallica whenever they do heavy stuff. Musically they don't have that many similarities with the band, other than that they're both metal... My wording was a little poor. Yes, the band is influenced by Metallica, but that's not their only metal influence. |
Posted By: codibick
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 15:06
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YES. YES REALLY! i mean, Metallica is a F*CKING great band, but hey let's not get ourselves too cocky. there are a lot of other influences that they could indeed use in their songs. OR BETTER, THEY COULD DO A SOUND THAT'S UNIQUE? HOW ABOUT THAT? |
Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: June 14 2008 at 15:08
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DT need to get more into jazz
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Posted By: King Crimson776
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 00:23
| No, Metallica is sic. \m/ |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 01:02
exactly!!!!
I am a big fa of the fellas!! i had a great time the last time I saw them live. It was an incredible show !!!!! every band has its influence and that doesn't mean that they have to be a clone other wise " IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII" THAT WAS a lot right? I wouldnt' be a fan of DT . Thank God they aren't. DT is more POWERFUL!!! THAN METALLICA!!!! THEY DO PET tribute to the band the adore and I WOULD TOo!! but to A METALLICA CLONE come on!!!!!!! HOW IN THE WORLD METALLICA CAN PLAY SOLOS THESE GUYS!! COME ON kids!! ALL JOKE AT SIDE ! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: b_olariu
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 04:41
 I'm totaly agree, i prefer 1992-1999 period, after this period they are almost boring to death to my ears. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 04:53
Yeah. Apart from that, getting a bassist might help. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: June 15 2008 at 16:26
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I would like Dream Theater to have less anoying and inmature fans! ...now if you excuse me, I will watch The Faery Godparents ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 16 2008 at 10:25
you Most be kidding! I know and I am very convinced the metallica were a huge to influence to Dream Theater but the had always being better than Metallica by miles ways if. they would so much like metallica I wouldn't be such a big as I am. I really like one song here and their of the Metallic boys, but to say they sound just like them and say that Dt are having problem coming out with new ideas is insane. Metallica is still making incredible albums. when in the world METAllica will even made a album as Octavirum and Scenes from a Memory or even Awake? When NEVER!!!
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Posted By: Treasure
Date Posted: June 16 2008 at 14:12
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They need to quit the crap and make a Damnation. ------------- 
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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 22:59
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I would like them a whole lot more if James Labrie wasn't their singer. He's not a metal singer and never will be.
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:09
I'm sick of DT bashing threads. I'm going to use the clown or pig emoticon for every one from now on, because there is no other reason for them at all.
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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:19
Well you know what... you MisterProg...my good friend------------- Idk, My BFF Steve. http://imageshack.us">
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Posted By: burritounit
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:21
Agreed. But man so many piggys. ------------- "I've walked on water, run through fire, can't seem to feel it anymore. It was me, waiting for me..." |
Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:27
Thank you for the heart to heart brandon  -------------
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Posted By: Statutory-Mike
Date Posted: June 18 2008 at 23:28
there could never be to many -------------
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Posted By: preqT0THEseq7
Date Posted: June 19 2008 at 14:54
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Mike your such a DT Fanboy lol
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Posted By: crimson87
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 15:55
I couldn't agree more.But real jazz fusion not like LTE. Myung needs to be heard more on the mix.And I wish Petrucci stoped being so self indulgent.
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Posted By: Proggg
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 16:02
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I'd like Dream Theater better if they kicked out James Labrie.
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Posted By: limeyrob
Date Posted: July 19 2008 at 16:12
| I'd like DT more if they got rid of the snare drum Incessant tap,tap, tap of a cheap out of place sound |
Posted By: soggybomb
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 17:11
------------- Without music life would be a mistake. ~Friedrich Wilhelm Nietzsche |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 18:28
I'd like some people here better if...  -------------
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: July 27 2008 at 22:56
I thought this poll had gone away ... shame about that 
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Posted By: Roj
Date Posted: July 28 2008 at 04:24
| Yorkie, my friend, some things just don't go away! I might as well have my say anyway. I'm happy with DT the way they are. Sure, my faves are the more prog tracks, eg, Octavarium. However, I also love the Metallica-ish stuff like The Glass Prison. You have to take your hat off to the DT boys, not only are they exceptional, they probably attract more polls and comments than anybody else! |
Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: July 31 2008 at 05:54
Back to page one we go 
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